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We used to go to Portland for the day or overnight 3-4 times a year. After a year+ off due to Covid, we went there again in May 2021, and were shocked to see that the homeless and graffiti had become as bad as Seattle. We still go, but not as often to our favorite places there like the Rose Garden and Portland Nursery, but we won't go near downtown or stay overnight.
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see when and how some of these cities recover.
San Francisco is crazy right now. The more neighborhood areas as absolutely killing it as everyone is now working from home so they're out in the neighborhoods a lot. Delta may or may not have put a damper on it but mostly the people in SF are younger and don't care that much the way someone in their 60s or 70s. Then there's the downtown area. San Jose was really strange. It's normally pretty sterile. Since most people commute in it's not like they want to stay for happy hour on Friday after work even. Normally though with all the office workers and college students it's pretty busy during the day. It wasn't completely a North Korean ghosttown but also not far off. Especially given how much of the economy is tech, it'll be interesting to see how much of it ever comes back.
Portland? The ones that want to boycott goods from Texas due to their election laws? Mwahahahahaha! Keep throwing feces around liberals. Eventually some of it will stick.
Nobody wants to move there. Nobody wants to move to Republican run cities, either. For instance, Tulsa is so desperate for new people that it will pay you $10,000 to move there and be a remote worker. Rather than be paid to move to Tulsa just who knows how many thousands of people would far rather move to Portland, due to the much, much better scenery, led by Mt. Hood? Better weather, too.
Not sure about all that. I spent a couple months in San Diego during the pandemic and it was actually quite nice overall. I love how the restaurants brought their seating outside. We did lots of walking and biking because the weather tends to be mild. If you’re not an outdoorsy person and/or can’t afford the lifestyle there, perhaps you’d find it depressing.
Oklahoma rural people from the many decaying towns within the state with no hope for a decent future there are moving to Tulsa. But the Tulsa metro certainly isn't growing as fast as the Portland metro.
You can bring up Oklahoma City, if you want, but unlike Tulsa, it is trying to turn purple, while not repelling as many people as Tulsa does from being so far right Christian Republican.
I never want to go there... Ever. The way it is described, it sounds like a literal hell on Earth. The people there are as depressing as the weather I am told.
Three or four years ago Alaska Airlines and others stopped leaving their crews overnight in Mexico, too dangerous. Sounds like PDX is almost in the same boat.......how sad.......this place used to be a nice town when I was growing up in Oregon. Now people are leaving there just like Kaleefornia under the stupid rule of the DEMS..........
In philly, that is generally the local govt that does that....
Nothing to see here. MOVE along.
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and what about pop-tarts? do people still eat those?
I love Pop Tarts!
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