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It was conceived as insurance against poverty and helped millions avoid the financial devastation which was so common before it. The program was modeled after similar programs in Europe, particularly the Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889 in imperial Germany, sponsored and promoted by Otto Von Bismarck.
People tend to forget the impact of Social Security in their own lives. It is very likely the program even helped your own parents and grandparents live fruitful independent lives.
Social Security works.
No it doesn't
It's a glorified ponzi scheme
He kicked the can down the road and knew he'd be long dead before it got really bad
What's so bad about tying health insurance to one's employment? Don't you quite strongly think that getting the government to provide health insurance for all workers would be one hell of a lot worse against the people?
Why either/or? Health insurance can work the same as auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, etc., not tied to either one's employer or the government.
So Hoover had nothing to do with creating the depression? I guess the guy before Hoover, who presided over the roaring 20's, Coolidge, had nothing to do with the depression, either.
Agreed those who came before FDR created it not FDR.
But FDR prolonged it.
It's amazing we have people saying he was a great president when he should have been living behind prison bars for what he did to people in this country.
So Roosevelt should have demanded that the people save up for retirement starting early in life or else keep working until they're too old and end up begging for money in the streets or hope for help from private charities?
isn't that your responsibility as an adult. Save for your retirement? Why it has to be force with NO control of the citizen? why not give the option to opt out of a system that the constitution doesn't give any power to the feds to manage?
This country survived a Revolution and a Civil War without FDR Social Security. Where was the demand for one?
I'd rate him at least an 8 for both the war years as well as social programs. I will NEVER understand those who label programs like SS that Americans pay into and later reap a return from SOCIALISM! while they have NO problem spending billion$ and billions$ funding unnecessary wars of choice fighting for others, especially those who refuse to fight for themselves.
It's been quite all right with the taxpayers to spend on up to trillions on war, since nobody has to march off to war against their will from the result of the draft being abolished. Following the massive protests against the Vietnam War, doing that was one of greatest things that ever happened in favor of the industrial military government complex.
Franklin D. Roosevelt as a president, on a scale of 1-10 how do you rate him?
1 being terrible
10 being great
with the various gradations in between, How many stars does he get?
Japanese intern camps a -10. Weak military and an isolationist before the war. Doing very little to get America out of nearly 10 years of depression including not reacting to the Dust bowl of the 30's. Overall maybe a weak 4.
So Roosevelt should have demanded that the people save up for retirement starting early in life or else keep working until they're too old and end up begging for money in the streets or hope for help from private charities?
Roosevelt ask Congress during his SOTU address in 1935 for a Voluntary contributory annuities but his Congress rejected it. Congress instead passed one: non-contributory old age pensions for those who were to old to build up their own insurance and two: Compulsory contributory.
It's very difficult, even unfair, to pass judgement on FDR, precisely because his ascendency and Presidency parallel a time of the greatest changes in American society -- rural/agrarian to urban/industrial, punctiated by a bitter economic crisis and adjustment, and global war.
My grandfather built a small farm-to-market dairy, sustained by poor-qualtity labor supplied by the weaker "safety net" which developed long before the Depression; the coming of the New Deal and the easier-to-get Unemployment check wiped him out. Needless to say, he hated Roosevelt and the entire "brain trust" which created the welfare state -- and there was a thinly-concealws anti-Semitism fueled by the origin of many of FDR's associates.
My father, a World War II GI, decided to re-start the farm; he "succeeded", but at a cost of chaining himself to an enterprise which could not expand due to the high cost of labor and a fickle work force that had other options. Needless to say, he also had little respect for urban-machine ethnic Democrats -- the infantry company in which he served had a majority of them.
So it was not until I left the small community in which I was nurtured that I gained exposure -- mostly through history courses in college, of the greater threats to human progress manifested in globaized Fascism, and once that was settled, by globalized Communism. In the process, I also witnessed, and later participated (in a small way) in the develpment of a Conservative counterpart.
FDR left a mark on the face of American society that can never be erased, but he was fortunste to have successors who were equally up to the task -- Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Reagan. So perhaps it's best to give him a grade of "incomplete".
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Because of him we have a reliance on government handouts. And you wonder why over 30% of Americans are on welfare.
So before SS there was no way for Seniors to get by? They were dying in the streets until the benevolent hand of government came along? lol Make something else up.
The New Deal ruined the economy and our entrance into WW2 saved it.
So instead of the New Deal, this country should have kept the Hoover shanty towns, and to this day all the homeless would have a place to live?
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while they have NO problem spending billion$ and billions$ funding unnecessary wars of choice fighting for others, especially those who refuse to fight for themselves. 
