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Old 09-22-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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Not really.

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Authorities in Hungary have prevented over 54,000 people from crossing the border illegally since the beginning of this year and prosecuted over 500 smugglers, the Chief Security Advisor György Bakondi has said.

According to him, such figures mark a huge increase from the same period one year earlier when a total of 17,000 illegal immigrants were caught by the police officials in Hungary, and 200 people smugglers were prosecuted...
What does this have to do with on shoring industries that we gave away ? I'm all for stopping the flow of illegals coming into this country. That would help for sure.
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Old 09-22-2021, 12:51 PM
 
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So 61% pay ZERO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES and Biden and the Democrats want to greatly increase entitlements, so it could get worse.

Do you think it's fair that 39% pay for 100% of the tax revenues? Are you part of the 61% who pay nothing or the 39% who pay for everyone?

Please leave out discussion of all the other taxes. This thread refers only to federal income taxes.

Please also leave out your flat rate tax ideas. Those have been discussed ad nauseam.

And if you think the 39% aren't paying enough, how much should they pay?

Is this system sustainable? Are a percentage of the 39% going to stop working altogether?
It is fully sustainable if we can increase the income tax to 99% on the richest 1%.
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Old 09-22-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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Stop subsidizing low wage workers and make companies pay their workers a livable wage. Very few Americans will work a job if they cannot live on it, unless they are a teenager living with their parents or something.


Taco Bell is paying workers $14 hr around here. White Castle is paying $15/hr and up. If they can pay these wages, there is no reason we shouldn't expect grocery stores and such to pay the same or more.
Good gracious that you are not appointed the dictator for the country.

No reason? I am sure every company is buying their materials at the same price as Taco Bell, processing their products at the same efficiency as Taco Bell, and being operated by the people with the same overhead. For some reason (must be greed), those companies just pocket more profit than paying their employees the same amount as Taco Bell! How dare them!

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Old 09-22-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Another way to look at this, is how many of those 61% who don't pay income tax are working at what we deem "essential" jobs, by pandemic standards?

They're working hard, full time, wrecking their knees and backs, for the profit of private business and still not making enough money to be comfortable.

How about, instead of us considering that "we" are supporting "them", "they" are supporting the capitalist system that leads to incredible wealth for those at the top of the chain, who have completely healthy knees and backs?

Grocery store stocking clerks, fast food workers, big box employees, who we all NEED, maybe need to be seen as the givers and not the takers?
Nobody is working hard, full time, wrecking their knees and backs for the profit private businesses. None. There's no such thing. It's your complete fabrication of reality.

Everybody is working hard for benefiting himself or herself!!!

Everybody, either taking a job or running a business, is doing it for themselves.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:03 PM
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Nobody is working hard, full time, wrecking their knees and backs for the profit private businesses. None. There's no such thing. It's your complete fabrication of reality.

Everybody is working hard for benefiting himself or herself!!!

Everybody, either taking a job or running a business, is doing it for themselves.

It's one thing if you knowingly put yourself into possibly injurious positions to make good money. For example, a person who owns a profitable floor installation business spends the first several many years doing the installing himself.

And he is richly rewarded, if his business takes off.

I'm talking about the cashier who stands at the register all day every work day, and has to have back braces and knee braces because their joints get worn out.

And they don't make enough to have to pay federal income tax, or live comfortably.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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It's one thing if you knowingly put yourself into possibly injurious positions to make good money. For example, a person who owns a profitable floor installation business spends the first several many years doing the installing himself.

And he is richly rewarded, if his business takes off.

I'm talking about the cashier who stands at the register all day every work day, and has to have back braces and knee braces because their joints get worn out.

And they don't make enough to have to pay federal income tax, or live comfortably.
I guess the question would be, why would this person just stay at this job, year after year, never trying to better themselves ?

I once worked as a short order cook..it was one of the worst jobs I've ever had. I did the best I could when I was there, but also did what I could to find a better job, which I did. And repeated the same process over and over until I got my foot into the career I really wanted, enjoy, and make a good living at, which I'm still in 30 plus years later.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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Answer: of course it's not sustainable.
If this nonsense of paying everyone $ because they simply exist, the people who are working will retire en masse, and nothing will get done. Then, as I suspect has been the agenda all along, the government will step in and the citizenry will be in lockstep.
If this country does not reverse course soon, I'm afraid that the days of our republic will be gone, never to return.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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It's one thing if you knowingly put yourself into possibly injurious positions to make good money. For example, a person who owns a profitable floor installation business spends the first several many years doing the installing himself.

And he is richly rewarded, if his business takes off.

I'm talking about the cashier who stands at the register all day every work day, and has to have back braces and knee braces because their joints get worn out.

And they don't make enough to have to pay federal income tax, or live comfortably.
So your answer is to require the employer to pay their employees more. Now, the employer has a choice they can raise prices in their store to make up for the difference or reduce their labor expenses. They chose the latter. They do this by installing self-service checkouts and let 1/3 of the employees go since they are no longer needed. Works out great for the employees who USED to be a cashier...right?

Of course, there is another option. The employee could show some self-initiative and work to find a better job with higher pay.
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Old 09-22-2021, 02:01 PM
 
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Hahaha. Most of the people I see promoted are young folks who’s only skill is being able to act like their competent.



Lol....

Acting like you're competent is half the battle....

"Fake it until you make it".

I've known successful people who's only real skill is telling other people what to do and how they want it done.

But that can be a skill in itself.
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Old 09-22-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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It's one thing if you knowingly put yourself into possibly injurious positions to make good money. For example, a person who owns a profitable floor installation business spends the first several many years doing the installing himself.

And he is richly rewarded, if his business takes off.

I'm talking about the cashier who stands at the register all day every work day, and has to have back braces and knee braces because their joints get worn out.

And they don't make enough to have to pay federal income tax, or live comfortably.
So am I. I am talking about everybody.

If the cashier has a better thing to do, he wouldn't stand at the register all day. Please remember it is voluntary employment, not the slavery you have been advocating. The said cashier can go anywhere he likes anytime.

The only reason he is standing there is that there is NO better thing for him to do.
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