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Old 09-24-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
The argument isn't if its a person place or thing, its about does the state have a constitutional right to control a woman's reproductive system. If it does wouldn't that give the state broader rights over everyones body?
If men got pregnant all the male anti-abortion people would completely change their opinion. Abortions would be sold on the shelf at the gas station.

 
Old 09-24-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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A fertilized egg that passes, unimplanted, during the menstrual cycle, is natural. Abortion is an act of violence against another human being.​

I don't see any difference between a fertilized egg passing naturally (which 30-40% do) versus, for example, having an IUD in place which prevents implantation. Do you think an IUD (or pill, patch, or injection, or even the morning after pill) acts in "violence"?
So for breakfast, you don't mind when a baby chick drops onto your cooking pan?
 
Old 09-24-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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So for breakfast, you don't mind when a baby chick drops onto your cooking pan?
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. How would a baby chick drop into my cooking pan?

I do know the difference between eating a chicken egg (fertilized or not, people eat them both ways) and eating chicken. Just like I know the difference between a human egg (fertilized or not) and a human.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 04:10 PM
 
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A world with fewer acts of violence against helpless innocent people would be an improvement.

Initiating acts of aggression against the innocent and helpless is not an acceptable solution.
Would you support the government prosecuting a woman for throwing herself down a flight of stairs to attempt to end a pregnancy ?.....Yes or No.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If men got pregnant all the male anti-abortion people would completely change their opinion. Abortions would be sold on the shelf at the gas station.
Really. Who knows how many pro life women who want all abortion banned change their minds on that when they are surprised to find themselves with an unwanted, inconvenient pregnancy?
 
Old 09-24-2021, 05:11 PM
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Please explain then, how 2 counts of murder can be imposed for killing a pregnant woman?


A murder charge can ONLY be imposed when it is a REAL HUMAN LIFE.
If a woman loses her preborn baby due to negligence on her part, i,e., drunk driving can she be charged with the death of her fetus? The laws limitting alcohol use by pregnant women vary from state to state.



https://www.alcohol.org/laws/serving...regnant-women/
According to NIAAA, the following states have limitations against use of medical tests as evidence in criminal prosecutions of pregnant women who may have exposed a fetus to alcohol:

California
Colorado
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Missouri
Nevada
Virginia
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:53 PM
 
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So they aren’t human until they exit the vagina canal?
Pretty much
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:58 PM
 
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I didn't say that. But maybe you have a solution when they are born.
Ummmmmm… its called being a parent??
 
Old 09-24-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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I would say abortion kills a human being, regardless of its stage of development.


I have mowed around several "sprouted acorns" in my front yard over the past ten years. Now, I have several oak trees. At what point do you judge that the sprout becomes a tree?
What height do you set your mower at?
 
Old 09-24-2021, 07:12 PM
 
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Scientifically, human life begins at fertilization. A person is the same individual, and even has it's own unique, identifiable DNA, from zygote to embryo, to fetus, to newborn, to toddler, to teenager, to adult, to elderly. That human being is the same individual but is just in different stages of development.
Like I stated before…….your analogy also means if you are a male and you masturbated you also Killed a human life”
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