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Old 10-11-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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battery powered generators eh?


I guess thats one way to get em to stop griping about the constant blackouts...remove back up power
Well, there are options. My neighbor has used this little gem for over 3 years now on it's original battery to cut his third of an acre of lawn. He has plenty of power with one charge to cut his full lawn TWICE.

https://www.lowes.ca/product/cordles...cluded-2546170

Of course he has to push it but given the obesity rate that'd probably be for the best anyway.

I'm told they also make small lawn tractors.

As to back up generators; does not the law specify "gasoline" or "diesel" and therefore exempt the propane or natural gas versions? I have a 20KW natural gas stand-by generator and wouldn't have gone with a gas or diesel powered genny for all the obvious reasons of dangerous fuel storage and/or serviceability requirements.

Having said all of this; the damage to the environment from the mining extraction of needed materials and the environmental concerns of battery disposal associated with modern lithium battery manufacturing, with no recycling options as yet available VASTLY overshadow any of the gains they expect to achieve.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:49 AM
 
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How and WHERE do all those used batteries in California wind up?

They abandond a battery recycling plant about a year ago.

https://abc7.com/exide-battery-plant...y-doj/7167011/

Recycling batteries is a toxic business.
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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Battery technology changes from year to year, they are always getting better, by 2024, its a safe bet, battery technology will be up to the task.
Battery powered generators? Isn't that defeating their purpose?
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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How and WHERE do all those used batteries in California wind up?

They abandond a battery recycling plant about a year ago.

https://abc7.com/exide-battery-plant...y-doj/7167011/

Recycling batteries is a toxic business.
3rd world countries?
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:26 AM
 
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3rd world countries?
That's my guess because as 'progressive' as they claim to be their 'not in my backyard syndrome' will flaire up when it comes to cleaning up the consequences of their desires and policies.

Many states/areas of the country still can't even recycle more than 50% of the plastic they take in so how are they going to expand or upgrade to toxic batteries en masse?
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Just one more "common sense" law.
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Well not sure about this one. And their congress approved it? California the next Jurassic jungle. If so expect a lot of the lawn companies headed your way. That industry feeds a lot of kids, from Home Depot to a kid who cuts lawns to make little extra money. Now. Changing the emissions on those babies I can see.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I wouldn't consider this to be such a big deal, after all, the typical mower, chainsaw or blower lasts 5-10 years,
and it only bans the sale of them. You still have until 2024 to buy a new one, and after that, just hop over the border into Nevada, Oregon or Arizona to buy your new ones. Our state (Washington) tends to follow behind CA on such laws, but fortunately I have all the gas powered tools I need, some being less than a year old:

Riding Mower
Regular Mower
Chain Saw
Pressure Washer
Rototiller
Chipper-Shredder
Outboard Motor
Generator
Inverter Generator
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Default PG&E Will Begin Turning Off Power for Safety Due to Offshore Wind Event, Affecting About 25,000 Customers In Small, Tar

https://www.pge.com/en/about/newsroo...of_20_counties

Oh yeah! Lets rely more on electricity, when they can't even keep the lights on. And they want to get rid of nuclear energy, the only reliable zero emissions power source?
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