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No one has been dying in the streets of Covid. Covid has a very high survival rate for most groups.
Let people make their own health decisions. No mandates.
Nevertheless just under 5 million people on this planet have been killed by Covid, that's affected tens of millions of lives, the vaccine is literally saving millions of lives not only that its only the vaccine that has enabled the UK to open up again, whether I think the virus will kill me or not doesn't change the fact that now I can go shopping, go to the pub, go to the football etc and do all of these things without wearing a mask everywhere I go, for that alone the vaccine is VERY worth it!
No, just you're wishful thinking. And that's something I don't have to take a guess at.
Considering that only 0.8% of Covid deaths in the UK are in vaccinated people and 99.2% of deaths are in the unvaccinated I would suggest that it is highly unlikely that any of the 4 are vaccinated wouldn't you say!!
It is kind of odd that as nations increase their vaccination percentages, their covid 19 infection rates increase as well. In fact in many cases, the increases correlate with each other.
I live in Miami, where we had no meaningful restrictions since October 2020, but we exploded with COVID cases in summer 2021, despite having one of the highest vaccinate rates in the USA. I don't disregard that many people changed their behavior once vaccinated. But still, these vaccines failed at controlling the pandemic. We had more cases and deaths summer 2021, with a vaccine rate of 70+% than in summer 2020 when vaccine rate was 0%.
Yeah interesting, what were the tourist numbers and what was people’s behaviour like in Summer 2020 compared to 2021? June/July 2020 was still in the thick of it, people were likely protecting themselves more even if not officially under restrictions.
By summer 2021 Delta would be running rampant no? But yeah very high vax rates in Miami, so I don’t know the answer to that.
Nevertheless just under 5 million people on this planet have been killed by Covid, that's affected tens of millions of lives, the vaccine is literally saving millions of lives not only that its only the vaccine that has enabled the UK to open up again, whether I think the virus will kill me or not doesn't change the fact that now I can go shopping, go to the pub, go to the football etc and do all of these things without wearing a mask everywhere I go, for that alone the vaccine is VERY worth it!
With Covid. Most people who died with Covid had co-morbidities. The number who died OF Covid is much lower. The vaccine is an individual choice and a tool that can be utilized to reduce individual risk. N95 masks are really the only one that provides significant protection to the wearer and those can also be chosen as a way to reduce risk.
You are allowed to do things again because your government gave you permission to utilize your rights to move freely again. Something they took away from you previously.
Don’t try to deflect. We are talking about the vaccinated spreading Covid, not about hospitalization. Leftists are a sneaky little bunch.
It is not deflection. The point of lockdown and vaccination is decrease hospital capacity so they aren’t overwhelmed.
Sadly we could have easily been back to normal almost a year ago. There are more than enough vacant buildings and trainable people throughout the country. Capacity for care could have been easily expanded. This could have been done throughout all of 2020.
Why not do it yourself to offer countering articles to disprove him?
Because if someone makes a claim stating something as fact, they should cite their source. That's how it works. If they can't prove that what they are saying is fact, then why should I believe them?
They are asking me to believe an alternative to what the 'experts' are saying. The vast majority of the world believes that vaccinations are effective (not infallible) at preventing ICU hospitalizations and death, or otherwise stated, at "mitigating the effects of the virus".
OP put a stat up, that basically supports that they are effective, but seems to imply it means something else.
It's on them to at least validate their data, as it is integral to their thesus.
I did a quick search, and found both articles, but nothing backing either of them up. Just some news rag making a statement. I also check on my sources, and if they can't back up what they say, I give them the same amount of credibility. NONE.
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