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Old 11-09-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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If only people would heed this overly simplistic advice about every aspect of their lives, kids, homes, credit, etc...if only humans were perfect.
You don't have to be perfect to not spend more than you have. It just requires basic arithmetic.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:46 PM
 
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You don't have to be perfect to not spend more than you have. It just requires basic arithmetic.
Lol, and looking at a large portion of our society, and their debt, they seem to have failed basic arithmetic...don't ya think ?
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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Lol, and looking at a large portion of our society, and their debt, they seem to have failed basic arithmetic...don't ya think ?
Our own government can't do basic arithmetic. Not a surprise that schools run by said government failed them miserably. What do you expect?
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:50 PM
 
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Our own government can't do basic arithmetic. Not a surprise that schools run by said government failed them miserably. What do you expect?
Agreed. So, that being said, you expect people to actually think long term and be financially set before staring a family ? LOL. What do you expect ?
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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Agreed. So, that being said, you expect people to actually think long term and be financially set before staring a family ? LOL. What do you expect ?
Financially set? Not necessarily. A reasonably plausible plan for getting there? Yes.

It's part of being an adult.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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Financially set? Not necessarily. A reasonably plausible plan for getting there? Yes.

It's part of being an adult.
Yeah, one would think.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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The real issue here is not whether someone earns $19/hr or $50/hr. People should get paid what they're worth on the free market. At the end of the day, people should be allowed to sell their labor for whatever price they decide to. If a "burger joint" can't sell it's product for enough money to pay its workers competitively, then why should it even exist? Or if the owners want to show up at 5am everyday and start making breakfast biscuits then good for them. They can do the actual work and make the actual money.

Perhaps there are just too many of these types of businesses in our economy now and it's time to let the free market decide what to do about it.

What's not cool is companies like McDonalds and Walmart profiting in the billions while their workers get food stamps and Medicaid. The business model is broken if my tax dollars are required help pay their labor costs. At the end of the day, I don't really care how much people are paid if they are willing to do the work and the business can support them. If companies like the aforementioned can't do that, then they can raise their prices and cut their profit margins by however much they need to in order to offer wages that actually attract the labor they need. Maybe their prices go up. Good. That's the free market at work. Maybe we don't need fast food joints on every street corner. Maybe the millenials need to learn how to cook for themselves and eating out can go back to being a luxury expense that most people avoid.

Personally, I don't think flipping a burger is worth $40k a year. But then, I don't eat fast food because like everything in life, you get what you pay for...
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Old 11-09-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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[quote=Blues4evr;62269732]It was not designed to be a career, these were designed for high school kids to gain experience on their resumes later in life, gas money, spending money, and retirees who want something to keep them busy and supplement their income, it isn’t a career.

People just dont get that and never will. If you dont have a game plan in your high school days, or your parents didnt push or suggest to you to capitalize on your interests and abilities. Then flip burgers, and dont complain about the pay.
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Old 11-09-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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That's more benefits and higher minimum wage than a lot of non-service jobs.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/viral-bur...155258748.html
Fast food joints -- even good paying ones will always have a hard time retaining staff.
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The irony here is that people are saying that people working menial jobs don't deserve more money when in fact it is capitalism itself that has decreed that they are now worth more money because there aren't enough people willing to do those jobs.

It seems like some posters here want the poor to be punished because they think they don't deserve better. They claim to be capitalists but seem to be mad that the basic laws of supply and demand in the labor market are leading to better lives for low wage workers. You may not think a fast food worker deserves $20 and hour but the laws of economics imply that they do now.
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