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Old 11-07-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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I argue that there should be some inequality, but not the massive inequality we have now, no where near it. We're approaching the late 1920's in terms of our GINI coefficient, and we know what happened at the end of that.....
It’s not inequality for more highly skilled employees to make more. It’s not inequality for people who work in high risk jobs to make more. It’s not inequality for those who built businesses from nothing putting at risk everything they have to make a go from that. What IS INEQUALITY is for those who are just skating by in life who don’t want to work as hard or do things necessary to increase their knowledge and skill to make about the same as those who have done all of those things.
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Old 11-07-2021, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Marlton, NJ
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No, you're a right winger. I've read enough of your posts. If you think you're in the center, then you don't know what the center is
... and you're a selfish socialist.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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Bootstrap philosophy is a farce, it always has been. It was propaganda put out during the Great Depression to stop the mobs of unemployed from rising up and revolting against the capitalists

The whole Horatio Alger thing was nothing more than a con!



Bootstrap philosophy is nothing more than accepting the fact that you are responsible for your own success or failure.

The Left thinks that because not everyone can become rich through hard work and personal responsibility, that means that bootstrap philosophy is invalid and useless.

But the fact is that, unless you're severely physically or mentally disabled, pretty much everyone is capable of improving their lot in life to the point where they can support themselves.


And that's a measure of success in it's own right.

You don't have to become a millionaire for personal responsibility and hard work to be a valid means of making your way in the world without expecting someone else to pay your way.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:04 PM
 
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You're not going to make an Oracle programmer or Doctor or Lawyer or Venture Capitalist out of the vast majority of the population. The jobs that don't require a high IQ that pay a living wage are becoming fewer and far between



Life isn't fair

Boo hoo.


Stop trying to make it fair by reaching your grubby paws into someone else's pockets.

You sound like a five year old crying about how Billy has more ice cream than you do.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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The hypocrisy of the leftists claiming that the government made the economy the way it is now and at the same time we need more government to fix the problem is amusing.

You don't trust the same people who created the problem and have a vested interest in perpetuating said problem with solving the problem
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:11 PM
 
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If we just had single payer healthcare, that would greatly improve the lives of the vast majority of people, without even having to pay them any more money


Try worrying more about the COST of healthcare and less about WHO is paying for it and then we can talk about a national system.

Until then, you're just wanting someone else to pay your bills.

We saw what happened the last time y'all tried to mess with healthcare.

Dems FUBAR'd it up so badly that now it's so expensive that for many people their health insurance is practically useless for anything other than catastrophic coverage.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:17 PM
 
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The problem is that there are far too many of these types of businesses in our country. They are mostly entry level jobs without much of a future and aren't intellectually challenging enough to be career jobs. Business upstarts need to be more regulated to fit the availability of American workers for those types of jobs in our country. It's Capitalism gone array.

How about less regulations and taxes? Business categories that are having attracting employees like restaurants. Give them a 12 month holiday on taxes. Employees wont be taxes on their earnings. Give them pell grants or other incentives to get an education for free if they are working full time.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:30 PM
 
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I'm the first to admit that the ACA isn't what I wanted, it was screwed the minute the public option was taken out, and that was solely thanks to corporate stooge Joe Lieberman


The public option had to go for it to pass.

There was no way that it could actually be funded in the real world without taxing the bejesus out of people and drastically cutting how much money the healthcare and insurance industries make.

Single payer is a pipe dream in America.

You'd be better off taking everything back to pre ACA if your goal is to actually make healthcare more affordable for more people.

As it is now, Obamacare helped some people but it did so at the expense of screwing millions of others.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:37 PM
 
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If I said what you sounded like, I'd get banned, so I won't....

I sound like someone who made their own way in life and is sick to death of listening to whining liberal soy boys tell people that they can't succeed without government playing Robin Hood for them.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:38 PM
 
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How about less regulations and taxes? Business categories that are having attracting employees like restaurants. Give them a 12 month holiday on taxes. Employees wont be taxes on their earnings. Give them pell grants or other incentives to get an education for free if they are working full time.
Nah, that would make too much sense. Better to take half of what the business earns, set fire to 2/3 of it, and give the remaining third to homeless bums pooping on the streets. (/s)

We're talking about the government here.
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