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Old 11-09-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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i do NOT hate the man..there is a saying where there's smoke theirs fire...Mr trump has had forty plus years of bad press in new York evidently..


i don't believe anybody could do high level business in new York without dealing with the Russian mob..


Mr trump continues with the lost election story and is helping further divide our country..


mr trump is an excellent manipulator and i am glad of my skeptical nature

 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:40 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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It seems everything y'all say he did, he didn't do. Y'all tried to claim Russian collusion. That's been proven wrong. Insurrection, proven wrong. People keep starting rumors that he's going to prison, he hasn't. All I hear are a bunch of bad rumors that are never ever proven.

Everything he said about Biden is happening. He is smart and saw it and tried to warn us. We have more doom and gloom than ever and our country is being destroyed.

Trump did great things for the country. We had Freedom, low gas prices, great economy, no open borders, no inflation, no WOKE craziness. He kept us safe. He was so transparent. Hardly a day went by when you didn't hear from him what he was working on or what he thought and he took on the angry mean left media. He wasn't afraid to take their questions.

What exactly did he do that angered you so much besides just the tweets?
Two reasons. First is that people are tribal to their political party. Trump is evil if he runs as a Republican and Trump is the next coming of Christ if he runs as a Democrat. Second is because people vote most often for personality over policy. Trump has a defective personality and says really rude things. People are put off by that and forget to consider actual policy.

The result is we now have a President who is a pedophile who sexually assaulted his own daughter, attacks American citizens with the FBI, poops his pants, screams at reporters, stands in the jetpack stance when trying to figure out an answer to a question, lies nonstop, has horrific policies that are destroying peoples lives, causes massive illegal immigration by rewarding them, is causing inflation we have not seen since J.C., screwed up the Afghanistan withdrawal, made us energy dependent on the middle east again and so on.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Two reasons. First is that people are tribal to their political party.
Yes because only one side has a weird cult-like allegiance.

The sooner we move away from a two party system the better.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Thats right! Trump told it like it was... No BS. He would be the first one to say, he is not a polished politician. He didn`t have 50 years, to practice in being a BS artist.
He is the ultimate BS artist. Has been his entire life, as anyone who lived in the northeast can tell you. If you can't see that, you are not looking very hard.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:42 AM
 
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Don't hate Trump. I think he's a narcissist, con man and poor business man and I feel sorry for the people who have donated money to his endless fundraisers for his legal cases. I thought his demeanor was harmful to the office of the President of the United States and international relations.

For the record, I don't hold Joe Biden up in any regard either.

How was his international relations bad? Could you explain further? Did you not think our country was safe?

Don't all politicians take donations? Why so many legal costs? Maybe because the dems tried to sue him each and everyday for things he never did?
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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They will never admit it, but the principal goal of the Democratic Party pros is to reduce their opposition to a small group which marginalizes itself via its own actions; Mexico's dominant Institutional Revolutionary party has been practicing this stratrgy for decades.

Donald Trump (not that I see him as a hero) threw a huge monkey wrench into this Master Plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U15GbE9AIuM

Personally, I take more satisfaction from the contunued rebuff of the Democrats' "simple amswers for simple minds" in the most recent elections in Virginia and elsewhere, but they will, no doubt, continue to sink to just about any dirty tactic in their putsuit of power.

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Why don't you let Dems speak for themselves. Your personal impression of what you think Dems think, is just your personal impression.
For starters, a subtantial portion of their clientele isn't capable of writing an intelligent sentence -- in English.

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Old 11-09-2021, 09:44 AM
 
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He is the ultimate BS artist. Has been his entire life, as anyone who lived in the northeast can tell you. If you can't see that, you are not looking very hard.
Could you name a specific time he BSed everyone? Ultimate BS artist? Please give some examples?
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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They hate Trump for purely personal reasons. they hate his voice, his hair, his behavior and mannerisms, and they hate that he is a businessman and not a politician. but mostly they hate him because he is a Republican. Every Republican president was equated by Democrats to Hitler, called a racist, misogynist a homophobe, and accused of kicking puppies and stealing candy from babies.
Why don't you let Dems speak for themselves. Your personal impression of what you think Dems think, is just your personal impression.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:48 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Don't hate Trump. I think he's a narcissist, con man and poor business man and I feel sorry for the people who have donated money to his endless fundraisers for his legal cases. I thought his demeanor was harmful to the office of the President of the United States and international relations.

For the record, I don't hold Joe Biden up in any regard either.
Reps to you.

I would add that I found a LOT of his policy decisions questionable, but that's not unique to any specific President.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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How was his international relations bad? Could you explain further? Did you not think our country was safe?

Don't all politicians take donations? Why so many legal costs? Maybe because the dems tried to sue him each and everyday for things he never did?

His constant sniping at the EU over NATO wasn't particularly helpful, his description of some countries as "****holes" can't have gone down well in those nations. I think diplomatically he refused to play the game, and I get it, some people like that maverick, off the cuff, flying by the seat of your pants attitude, but I don't believe him to be popular abroad (caveat: my knowledge of international opinion is only based on Europe from personal experience). Whether that made us less safe or not, who knows? I suspect hundreds of plots a year are uncovered regardless of who is President at the time.

Some of the legal cases are ongoing, I couldn't possibly comment on whether they are valid vases as I'm not a judge.
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