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View Poll Results: Do you think 5G and Cell Towers are safe?
Yes, absolutely safe 59 37.82%
Mostly safe 18 11.54%
Probably not as safe as the government would like us to believe 46 29.49%
Definitely not safe 33 21.15%
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-16-2023, 04:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Tantalust View Post
Are there any documented cases where a typical commercial celltower proved to sicken anyone?
I had a cell tower on my property a few feet from my home for 15 years and developed a lump on my lower backside. That lump was my wallet from monthly payments I received until we sold the lease to a major cell tower owning company just before we moved.

Along with that my signal never lacked strength.

I’d take another one on my current property any time. Our UPS delivery guy had two on his. Ching Ching.

If they come knocking on your door interested in putting a tower on your property, get you some! Don’t forget to negotiate. Just don’t get too greedy or they may go to your neighbor and you’ll be looking out your window and still see a tower but you won’t be getting the income from it.

 
Old 10-16-2023, 05:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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…as if you and I were that important. We’re not and neither is 95% of the people in this country.
Preach.
 
Old 10-16-2023, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by RetireinPA View Post
The actual truth is:


"there is some indication that these towers cause issues according to SOME studies"


and


"there is little indication that these towers cause issues according to SOME studies"


What you wrote above was false.


I can quote all day studies from around the world, over time that say there are issues, and I can quote studies from around the world over time that say there are few issues.


Neither of us can quote studies that say there are NO issues.


This is the exact wording of the global claims:

Strong is not synonymous with ZERO

Low risk is not synonymous with NO risk.

read the ACS part on this. they point out that the radiation you get from the TOWER, is less than that of the PHONE (lobe radiated signal, strength decrease proportional to square of radius and all that,) which is why we have more RISK from the phone in a breast pocket or on your lap in a car - eerily similar to ball cancer problems with handheld radar guns in cop cars, but note, this article was for cell tower WORKERS, who are, by nature, dead smack in the lobe radiated signal, and their radius is very very small so the effective power is many orders of magnitude more. Eerily similar to navy ship workers sent to work on radar antennas (real close in freq) while the set was powered on. The navy, if you recall, LOST that suit.


Being somewhat educated in the sciences, I chose not to live next to a tower*, under transmission lines and I try to not carry a phone in my shirt or pants pocket. (TBF, I dont want to carry a cell phone AT ALL anymore cuz I dont wanna hear from anyone at any time) and I sure as heck do not want to work on the towers. Am I greatly altering my habits? not at all. I am far more concerned about the huge dose of UV we now get daily from all artificial lighting and screens. Skin damage is real, retinal damage is real.



You, do you of course.


* = UNDER the tower, if there is risk, is less than NEXT to the tower, due to the lobe shaped signal
Go ahead and quote the study that found ill effects from cell towers and we can have a conversation.
 
Old 10-16-2023, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I just wondered who was worrying about G5 risks? Would any of those folks be the same as those who are boosted and double boosted? Just wondering.
 
Old 10-16-2023, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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There is no proof of adverse effects other than cataracts and that would be for people in close proximity mostly workers, radiation levels of transmitters drop off exponentially and are generally not a danger to the public.
We (alarm techs) worked extensively with [ and somewhat ignorantly looking directly into them] microwave horn motion detectors in the '70s, 80s and 90s.

The Solfan Doppler Modules @ The Microwave Museum

They're also used for automatic supermarket door openers.

Being of retirement age, I wouldn't be surprised with some mild cataract diagnosis soon.
 
Old 10-16-2023, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Originally Posted by Leona Valley View Post
I had a cell tower on my property a few feet from my home for 15 years and developed a lump on my lower backside. That lump was my wallet from monthly payments I received until we sold the lease to a major cell tower owning company just before we moved.

Along with that my signal never lacked strength.
Cool !

Many churches are hiding those transponders in their steeples today.
 
Old 10-17-2023, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Go ahead and quote the study that found ill effects from cell towers and we can have a conversation.

lol which one? what I said, still stands.
 
Old 10-17-2023, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
There is no indication that any of these towers cause medical issues according to studies. Certainly some microwaves have heating effects but at those distances the drop off is exponential.

Problem is some people quote anecdotes about harm and it suddenly becomes science.

fergot...


do you know what the bolded and underlined quote above means? You can express it mathematically if you like, I have told you how twice, in this thread.



no really, YES, or NO.


Do you, or is it just something you read (from me likely, twice in this thread alone over the last 2 years)


you asked me a few hours ago to quote more stuff (again), so quoting something that is at conflict with your narrative...


Quote:
What is a safe distance from a 5G cell tower?



















After the 150-meter mark, RF energy gets weaker. The distance needed to reduce exposures down to the General Public Precautionary Level of 100 microwatts per meter squared (μW/m²) is often around a quarter of a mile (1320 feet or 400 meters) or more.
{emphasis theirs}




so I ask my question above, again, in line with the OP of this thread....


and please draw on a piece of paper the 5G radiated signal pattern - or any digital cell signal (without googling please and upload/paste it to your reply in this thread, I need to know that you understand the subject material) and contrast to my recent comments on living UNDER towers, vs NEAR them. What did I mean by that? why would I say such a thing?



These are your homework questions.

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Old 10-17-2023, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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A reincarnation of an older chart:







Website: https://kaiserscience.wordpress.com/...es-and-cancer/
 
Old 10-17-2023, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Retired said, "...and contrast to my recent comments on living UNDER towers, vs NEAR them."

I'll need to search my EMF folders about "under or near them" but how about within .5-5 inches:
Is there any solid evidence that tower-nesting birds have been sick or dying from radiation?

We do know there are laws protecting those birds' nests, preventing their removal or other disturbances.

(and - ahem, we do know the Indian house sparrow news story was already thoroughly debunked.)
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