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When you go to Alaska and they show you where all the Glaciers were 50, 150 and 250 years ago, I always wonder why now do we say the climate is changing.
The climate has been changing for Millions of years. The Great lakes were created by Glaciers as were half the canyons in California.
The climate changes.
If we could all just agree that the climate is changing--regardless how it was caused--maybe we could start thinking about how we can best weather the change.
How do we need to change agriculture and water management? How do we need to change building practices? Maybe we should stop building housing complexes on Florida sand bars, for instance. Maybe new houses in Houston and Louisiana should be built on those hurricane-resistant stilts.
The US Navy is already determining a calendar for the abandonment of east coast Naval bases, and the Army is already studying how global drought patterns will cause resource wars in Africa and Asia.
How many more people have to die and how many more people have to lose their homes before we finally unite and agree that climate change is a very serious threat to all of us?
Natural climate change is very slow. Man-made climate change is occurring at a much faster rate. The Earth has never seen the climate change this fast in the fossil record.
Humans are burning 1,000 barrels of oil per second, 24 hours a day, year in, year out. Mankind has changed the composition of the atmosphere from ~280 ppm CO2 to 418 ppm today, an increase of nearly 50%. Basic physics says it's impossible for the planet not to warm at these new high levels of CO2. The burden is on the climate deniers to come up with a new theory that explains how the planet is not warming with a 50% boost in CO2.
There is a growing consensus that, if climate change is manmade, man has already gone beyond the "bingo" point of being able to turn it back. And the biggest contributors aren't going to turn back anyway.
That's probably an irrelevant argument that's only delaying actions to survive an inevitable change.
I still maintain that the current climate anomolies are due to the natural weakening of earth's protective radiation, and the rapid relocation of magnetic north from Canada toward Siberia. There is a serious weak spot developing in the magnetic field over the south Atlantic Ocean.
If somebody can explain to me how CO2 levels moved magnetic north from Canada half-way to Siberia in 50 years, please let me know. I am all ears. Magnetism comes primarily from actions of the earth's molten core.
How many more people have to die and how many more people have to lose their homes before we finally unite and agree that climate change is a very serious threat to all of us?
How many more people have to die and how many more people have to lose their homes before we finally unite and agree that climate change is a very serious threat to all of us?
Extreme Dust Bowl in 1930 kills hundreds across America!!!!!
How many more people have to die and how many more people have to lose their homes before we finally unite and agree that climate change is a very serious threat to all of us?
Interesting, how you write this on a day when parts of the city of Phoenix will have a high temperature of 47 degrees!
Wow, just looked at the California forecast many of the beach communities will be in the 40s for highs and Los Angeles 50 degrees for the high.
How many more people have to die and how many more people have to lose their homes before we finally unite and agree that climate change is a very serious threat to all of us?
If you think it's bad now, you should have been with our distant ancestors during the ice age.
I'd like to hire you as a prophet and psychic in hopes of winning the next lottery. It takes a hell of a clairvoyant to know that certain weather phenomena haven't occurred in the two or three billion years of our planet's history. The force is definitely with you. If you are interested in winning that lottery with me, I'll give you a cut.
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Humans are burning 1,000 barrels of oil per second, 24 hours a day, year in, year out.
Stop burning it. See how long you, me, and everyone around us live.
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Mankind has changed the composition of the atmosphere from ~280 ppm CO2 to 418 ppm today, an increase of nearly 50%.
And a cow fart changes the climate to a certain extent. Everything on the planet does.
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Basic physics says it's impossible for the planet not to warm at these new high levels of CO2.
And basic common sense tells us that unless you and all your comrades are willing to revert to a hunter/gatherer lifestyle, you'll never make it back to Eden. And you folks whine about this as your "leaders" fly private jets to climate summits.
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The burden is on the climate deniers ...
Sure is. We have to listen to you folks whine constantly.
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I'm a firm believer in science. If the climate deniers can publish a study in peer reviewed respected journals that disproves man-made climate change, then I will switch sides. Until then I'm with the overwhelming scientific consensus on this.
You sound like a monk living in the dark ages. "If the heretics such as Galileo and Copernicus can publish a peer reviewed (by church officials, of course) paper that the earth is not the center of the universe, I'll switch sides." Of COURSE you're never going to see what you ask for. Any dissenting voice is discounted and squashed, just like it was in dark age Catholic Europe.
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Natural climate change is very slow.
You might want to ask the Norse who were forced out of Greenland during the latter half of the fourteenth and early fifteenth century about that.
Natural climate change is very slow. Man-made climate change is occurring at a much faster rate. The Earth has never seen the climate change this fast in the fossil record.
Humans are burning 1,000 barrels of oil per second, 24 hours a day, year in, year out. Mankind has changed the composition of the atmosphere from ~280 ppm CO2 to 418 ppm today, an increase of nearly 50%. Basic physics says it's impossible for the planet not to warm at these new high levels of CO2. The burden is on the climate deniers to come up with a new theory that explains how the planet is not warming with a 50% boost in CO2.
I'm a firm believer in science. If the climate deniers can publish a study in peer reviewed respected journals that disproves man-made climate change, then I will switch sides. Until then I'm with the overwhelming scientific consensus on this.
The "overwhelming scientific consensus" is that climate change alarmists want certain industries to be outsourced to other countries and they want corporate welfare for certain industries they like here as part of their investment scheme.
The burden of what or prove what? If I don't like the weather somewhere I just move to where I like the weather.
This is just an agenda by climate change alarmists to surrender certain industries to other countries and weaken them in the states.
If someone is concerned about warmer weather in the future with natural weather cycles that have gone on millions of years then they can move to many states and countries and enjoy the cold weather if they prefer.
The more oil consumption the better. The more that is drilled and the more oil used the better means that the production goods side of the economy is doing fantastic.
If it's 280 ppm, 418 ppm or whatever that is fine with me.
A majority of people if they don't like the weather just move to a city that has the weather they like rather than running to read "peer reviewed respected journals"
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