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Old 01-09-2022, 11:48 AM
 
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Nope, I'm not trying to kid you.

The rest of their lives behind bars reeks of a system that is more concerned with eye for an eye type revenge, that it is for justice.

A killing that was non premeditated and resulting from actions never knowingly intended to be unlawful, shouldn't result in a 40 year old spending the rest of their lives behind bars.
"never knowingly intended to be unlawful" ?

BS

The father was a law enforcement officer at one time. Even if the others were too dimwitted to figure it out, he knew it was unlawful to chase someone down and murder them.

 
Old 01-09-2022, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Out of curiosity, do you believe members of juries need to go to law school?
Absolutely not. The results of this trial bears that out.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe90 View Post
Nope, I'm not trying to kid you.

The rest of their lives behind bars reeks of a system that is more concerned with eye for an eye type revenge, that it is for justice.

A killing that was non premeditated and resulting from actions never knowingly intended to be unlawful, shouldn't result in a 40 year old spending the rest of their lives behind bars.

If you are unaware you are breaking a law, should you be held accountable? In general, the law says yes.

The legal principle of ignorantia juris non excusat (ignorance of the law excuses not) or ignorantia legis neminem excusat (ignorance of law excuses no one) is derived from Roman law. Essentially, it means that if someone breaks the law, he or she is still liable even if they had no knowledge of the law being broken.

https://njsbf.org/2018/04/23/ignoran...not-an-excuse/


Three big burly grown men bringing a shot gun to confront one young man reeks of premeditation.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 12:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Joe90 View Post
Nope, I'm not trying to kid you.

The rest of their lives behind bars reeks of a system that is more concerned with eye for an eye type revenge, that it is for justice.

A killing that was non premeditated and resulting from actions never knowingly intended to be unlawful, shouldn't result in a 40 year old spending the rest of their lives behind bars.
They hunted down a human being. An innocent human being. They got off lucky that the DA didn't pursue the death penalty. Scum they are, and should be treated as such.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
"never knowingly intended to be unlawful" ?

BS

The father was a law enforcement officer at one time. Even if the others were too dimwitted to figure it out, he knew it was unlawful to chase someone down and murder them.
I'm not seeing any evidence that he set off to murder anyone.

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They hunted down a human being. An innocent human being. They got off lucky that the DA didn't pursue the death penalty. Scum they are, and should be treated as such.
Yep, I wouldn't argue with them being called scum. I think there has been enough killing already.


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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
If you are unaware you are breaking a law, should you be held accountable? In general, the law says yes.

The legal principle of ignorantia juris non excusat (ignorance of the law excuses not) or ignorantia legis neminem excusat (ignorance of law excuses no one) is derived from Roman law. Essentially, it means that if someone breaks the law, he or she is still liable even if they had no knowledge of the law being broken.

https://njsbf.org/2018/04/23/ignoran...not-an-excuse/


Three big burly grown men bringing a shot gun to confront one young man reeks of premeditation.
Nothing wrong with accountability, although I don't see the killing as premeditated.

I've got no issue with the verdict, just the sentence - it seems to come from the same mindset that got this young man killed..... extreme overreaction.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 01:42 PM
 
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For those who say this is a harsh sentence, why?


What is the appropriate sentence for chasing down and murdering a man who is jogging your neighborhood?
One guy did nothing but follow them and record it and he’s a murderer? Only one person shot him.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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I’ve probably gone into a couple of hundred houses under construction myself, to see what the floor plans look like and how the are being built, both in business and casual dress. Most of us have. Even if he had been there and taken something, which he did not, it is a matter for the police to investigate, and certainly not a reason for deadly force to be considered as a proper response.

Arbery was shot for jogging on a white man’s street while black.
Okay. There’s no way you've gone in a couple hundred houses under construction. And youve also done it “in business dress.” You obviously are lying. And he didn’t take anything because everything was locked up. He was likely looking for tools left out etc.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 01:50 PM
 
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[quote=Joe90;62668300]I'm not seeing any evidence that he set off to murder anyone.

.../QUOTE]

They took a video of chasing Mr. Arbery down and murdering him.

What did you think they set off to do?

Invite him out for beer?
 
Old 01-09-2022, 01:52 PM
 
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The idea that it was okay for these three men to hunt down and murder a man they suspected of something is a bunch of horse hockey.

What nonsense.

Take a photo. Call the police. Let them handle it.

Though the idea that is is legal to hunt down and murder someone you don't care for does have a certain appeal.
 
Old 01-09-2022, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Life without parole plus 20 years for Greg and Travis McMichael, life with a chance of parole after 30 years served for Roddie Bryan.

Justice is served.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/men-convi...060727736.html
Sort of. The former prosecutor still needs to go away for some time, possibly local police depending on whether they tried to cover up the murder or if that was solely the prosecutor.
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