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Old 02-05-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Generally, yes. Democrats generally support defunding the police, although they are bit quieter about it now, since it’s not a popular policy position.
They are sheep. If the dem voters think that a lot of people who represent their views want something, then they want it too. And once they hear that a lot of people who represent their views, have changed their minds and suddenly don't want that same thing, then they don't want it either. They are insane little followers. Whatever the headlines at the NYT or MSNBC want, they want it too.
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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All you have to do is look at the decline in police budgets in the liberal hellholes, of course its a real thing.
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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If you look at per-capita spending, the answer appears to be "no". Democratic states have significantly larger funding for police (per capita) than Republican states. But then isn't absolute as there's a handful of republican states that have well funded police as well - including Florida and Alaska.
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Where and what is your source for the underlined?
The source would be all the politicians in "Urban centers, which are overwhelmingly democrat" who were reelected in 2020, even after they are on video calling for police to be defunded.
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Nobody I know supported defund the police.

But many want to know why some cops shoot first and ask questions later.

This mantra of just do what the cop says and there won't be trouble is troubling.

There are some who become cops so they can push people around. Just a few. But they need to be gone. Taking orders for cars then putting contraband in them so the car can be confiscated and sold is one bunch. It took years to stop that in one east Texas town.

There is always one cop in a county who stops lone female drivers for some imagined infraction. Then letting her go with no ticket in return for sexual favors.

It would help if the cops would monitor themselves instead of having some incident plastered all over the news.

No knock warrants being one such stupid move.
Police have 61,500,000 contacts with the public each year. How many involve bad cop behavior?

Some miniscule % that the media magnifies....like those you point to above. Which party is the media affiliated more closely with, in nearly all of America's largest cities?

We all want the # of bad cop contacts to be zero...right?

Well, which political party is hiring the cops, training them, promoting them, firing them, in nearly all America's large cities? Who does the police chief report to?

Democrats, thats who...and its been that way for decades.

So, how are Democrats going to fix this? Republicans do not have a Dog in this fight...there isn't a Pub in sight. Is defunding police the solution? If not, why does the link below exist?

https://americanpoliceofficersallian...funded-police/
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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All you have to do is look at the decline in police budgets in the liberal hellholes, of course its a real thing.
It's not just the defunding, or reduced funding that causes increased crime, it's also the hostile attitude these blue city governments have towards the police. The police become hesitant to risk their lives enforcing the law, if it means a justified action on their part will be turned into an excuse by the mayor and DA to crucify them to satiate the angry leftist mob.
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Old 02-06-2022, 05:43 AM
 
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Nobody I know supported defund the police.

But many want to know why some cops shoot first and ask questions later.

This mantra of just do what the cop says and there won't be trouble is troubling.

There are some who become cops so they can push people around. Just a few. But they need to be gone. Taking orders for cars then putting contraband in them so the car can be confiscated and sold is one bunch. It took years to stop that in one east Texas town.

There is always one cop in a county who stops lone female drivers for some imagined infraction. Then letting her go with no ticket in return for sexual favors.

It would help if the cops would monitor themselves instead of having some incident plastered all over the news.

No knock warrants being one such stupid move.
"Nobody I know supported defund the police."
And what is that supposed to mean? Get your head out of the sand.

"More than 20 major cities have reduced police budgets in some form, and activists are fighting to ensure that is only the start"

"$870m cut from police"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oney-community


Do you deny all the DEM RUN cities that did?

"But many want to know why some cops shoot first and ask questions later."

Out of the over 6 million interactions civilians have each year with the police, how many times has this actually happened?

You talk like it happens daily.

"This mantra of just do what the cop says and there won't be trouble is troubling"

The "mantra" is true uneducated people are saying it but, the accusation is asinine.

"There are some who become cops so they can push people around"

Another wild accusation.

I have driven traveled all over the country many times and have been stopped by many cops and NEVER have I had this type of experience.

Have YOU actually experienced? Or is it just more B.S?

"There is always one cop in a county who stops lone female drivers for some im//www.city-data.com/agined infraction"

You have made a LOT of accusations

Back them up!

Not with anecdotal B.S but with REAL data.


Why do you think so many are either retiring of quitting?


"Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.?

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Old 02-06-2022, 05:49 AM
 
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I hope so but don’t be fooled by the newfound attention to crime they’re claiming. All they talk about is gun reform but I haven’t heard any of these politicians mention stopping the district attorneys and judges from letting violent felons out on low or no bail to await trials that never seem to come.

Just like the border, they are going to talk like they’re doing something but they are not doing anything. This is treason. There is no other way to put it what the democrat politicians have done. They ignore court rulings. They ignore their own constituents. They just do what they want because the media is there to cover for them.
"but I haven’t heard any of these politicians mention stopping the district attorneys and judges from letting violent felons out on low or no bail to await trials that never seem to come."

Try broadening your "news" sources to some different channels.

I hear it all the time.
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Old 02-06-2022, 05:54 AM
 
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Of course people want to get rid of bad cops, and no-knock warrants seem very dangerous and illegal to me. I don’t know how they can possibly be allowed under the Constitution.
"and no-knock warrants"

Do you even know when and why they are authorized?
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Old 02-06-2022, 05:57 AM
 
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Because you and I, and people on this forum, must live with the DIRECT consequences of policies.

For example...

A Black Lives Matter activist from LA go to NYC, demand 'defund the police', NYC politicians complied, then the activist left. Now who has to live with the consequences? Same with politicians who has on-demand security. They do not live with the consequences of their policies. YOU do. As such, they have no problems openly supporting 'defund the police'.

So the issue is not at the street level where no one knows anyone who is that stupid. But calling politicians who support 'defund the police' as stupid also misses the point. These politicians are not stupid. They know exactly the consequences of what they support and espouses. They just do not care and the people have been consistently gullible enough to believe they care and usually voted to return them to office, so over time, why should they care when they believe we will vote for them again and again...

If we want real change in our political leadership, all we need is two cycles of %50 turnover in the House of Representatives. Every two yrs, %50 is voted out. Do this twice and we will see a qualitative change in candidates for the House.
IMO, all the "defund the police is a state and city issue. The fed has nothing to do with it.
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