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I hope Ukraine continues punishing the Russians for the reckless military adventure. Now, we have more clowns in Russia talking about nuclear strikes. It appears the war isn't going so well.
If Ukraine was indeed punishing Russia, why has Zelensky agreed to meet Russian representatives in Belarus for negotiations?
If the first part of your post is factually correct, it would actually strengthen the claim that Moscow has taken pains NOT to target non-military targets.
Alas, graphic images of corpses from a Russian rocket strike near the center of Kharkiv would tend to weaken your argument.
And right in the midst of peace negotiations, less.
This makes no sense. "Punishing the Russians" is only going to make them seek nuclear and collateral damage even more.
Some of us prefer peace talks, instead of Kiev in pieces.
Again, the Russians (as in their government) love living on earth as much as we do. You gotta show strength and don't backdown
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Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner
If Ukraine was indeed punishing Russia, why has Zelensky agreed to meet Russian representatives in Belarus for negotiations?
The better question is this: Why would Russia agree to meet Ukraine if the war was going well for them? The Russians are backed into a corner because they have united NATO and the West against them. Now, the German president has committed to speeding up the construction of an LNG terminal to reduce its reliance on Russian gas.
Alas, graphic images of corpses from a Russian rocket strike near the center of Kharkiv would tend to weaken your argument.
And right in the midst of peace negotiations, less.
No, they wouldn't.
At this moment, I'm very skeptical of anything the Ukrainian and Russian press corps say in terms of how many KIA and POW they have either suffered or inflicted. I'd rather wait a bit.
But given Ukraine has hundreds of thousands of troops as well as hardware, that they would score a few hits on Russian positions is perfectly feasible - which at the same time does not point to the Ukrainians having the upper hand overall. Russia knocked out Ukraine's air force and navy within the first 24 hours of war.
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Originally Posted by bullandre
The better question is this: Why would Russia agree to meet Ukraine if the war was going well for them? The Russians are backed into a corner because they have united NATO and the West against them. Now, the German president has committed to speeding up the construction of an LNG terminal to reduce its reliance on Russian gas.
Because Russia's objective, as I've written on this thread, is not the wholesale conquest of the vast territory of Ukraine. This isn't Germany doing an Anschluss on Austria; this isn't the Empire of Japan annexing Korea, both historical events from 1938 and 1910 respectively.
Russia's goal is to force out, apprehend, and punish the neo-nazi/ultranationalist elements who have been responsible for much of the human suffering incurred by both Ukrainian and Russian civilians (including but not limited to those in the Donbass) and to ensure the subsequent Ukrainian government commits never to join NATO. The former is a humanitarian objective with political implications (Svoboda, Azov, Right Sector have had their involvement in Ukrainian politics post-February 2014 and it's been more than counterproductive) while the latter seamlessly fits in with and is consistent with Russia's strategic interests and national security objectives of ensuring there are no NATO military assets in a country whose border with Russia can be reached from Moscow in a bit over 1 hour by plane.
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Is this sarcasm?
Of course, Zelensky wants to end this attack on his country.
No, it's not. Zelensky wants to end this attack because the sooner it does, the easier it'll be on everybody. He knows he's outgunned. He already proclaimed to the world no one is there to help him. NATO and the U.S. egged Ukraine on for years but when the feces struck the rotating cooling device, Ukraine was on its own.
Got to wonder if this isn't a trap where a determined, well-trained, and well-supplied, Ukrainian military supported by an ‘international brigade’ of foreign volunteers wipes the floor with the Russian army.
The Russian stock market opened with a sharp increase of 20-25%
The Russian stock market opened on Friday with a sharp rise. Stocks recover losses after massive sales the day before.
The Moscow Stock Exchange index soared by 20.5% to 2480.9 points on the morning of February 25. This is evidenced by the trading data on the Moscow Stock Exchange as of 10:05 Moscow time.
The RTS index rose by 24.8% to 926.8 points.
The Russian stock market is recovering losses after massive sales the day before. On the eve of the stock indexes showed the maximum drop in the history of the Russian market on the news about the special operation in the Donbass. The Moscow Stock Exchange index fell by a record 33.3% yesterday and tested the 1,700-point mark during trading, that is, the lows since January 2016.
Demand for Russian securities increased after the risks of a direct military conflict between Russia and Western countries and the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions, which turned out to be not as large-scale as investors feared, explained Yevgeny Loktyukhov, head of the Department of Economic and Industry Analysis of Promsvyazbank.
Russia should worry first about rooting out the "neo-nazi/ultranationalist elements" in their own country. Russia's main aim in attacking is to prevent Ukraine from exercising its right to self-determination. In the event of a nuclear war, Russia should be worried less by a plane reaching Moscow in a bit over an hour and more about those difficult to track nuclear subs that are now positioned close to them and can rain down on them in less than 20 minutes.
Russia should worry first about rooting out the "neo-nazi/ultranationalist elements" in their own country. Russia's main aim in attacking is to prevent Ukraine from exercising its right to self-determination. In the event of a nuclear war, Russia should be worried less by a plane reaching Moscow in a bit over an hour and more about those difficult to track nuclear subs that are now positioned close to them and can rain down on them in less than 20 minutes.
Unfortunately, this isn't the most accurate reflection of the events at hand, and whatever neo-Nazi/ultranationalist elements there may be in Russia, they exert nowhere as much influence on Russian politics as their Ukrainian counterparts do in Georgia. This includes the deaths of innocent Ukrainians and Russians sine 2014.
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