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The Russian and Donbass troops have not even completely driven Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, nor have Russian troops completely encircled Kiev.
On the other hand, Russian troops seem to have completely driven Ukrainian troops from the southern Kherson region, and they have made incursions into neighboring regions, but do not have full control in any of them. Same goes for the northern regions east of Kiev.
Increasing chatter of direct Ukraine/Russia negotiations making some substantive progress.
It is way premature to realistically view on the ground a Russian takeover of all Ukraine, though at the same time premature to be optimistic about negotiations right now.
Meanwhile, NATO has had ample time to make preparations to defend its eastern flank, and together with Ukraine the western part the country.
Dombas and Crimea is part of Ukraine regardless what Russia claims.
No, this is incorrect.
Crimea was part of Russia for centuries. Ukraine took possession of Crimea only in 1954, when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev "gifted" Ukraine with Crimea. This decision violated the constitutions of both the Soviet Union and of the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic.
The 2014 Crimean referendum showed an overwhelming majority of Crimeans wanted to be under Russian and not Ukrainian jurisdiction. And again, this was a reactive move by Putin. Russians, who are very numerous in Crimea, were duly alarmed by all the racist rhetoric coming out of Kiev - again, by the Nazis which people claim don't exist.
The same groups I've named repeatedly: Azov Battalion, Right Sector, Svoboda - who are anti-Russian and began to issue edicts which spoke of curtailing the use of the Russian language and the practice of Russian cultural customs in eastern Ukraine.
As for Donbass, that part was historically Russian, and it was transferred to what is now Ukraine by another one-time Soviet leader: Lenin.
Crimea was part of Russia for centuries. Ukraine took possession of Crimea only in 1954, when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev "gifted" Ukraine with Crimea. This decision violated the constitutions of both the Soviet Union and of the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic.
The 2014 Crimean referendum showed an overwhelming majority of Crimeans wanted to be under Russian and not Ukrainian jurisdiction. And again, this was a reactive move by Putin. Russians, who are very numerous in Crimea, were duly alarmed by all the racist rhetoric coming out of Kiev - again, by the Nazis which people claim don't exist.
The same groups I've named repeatedly: Azov Battalion, Right Sector, Svoboda - who are anti-Russian and began to issue edicts which spoke of curtailing the use of the Russian language and the practice of Russian cultural customs in eastern Ukraine.
As for Donbass, that part was historically Russian, and it was transferred to what is now Ukraine by another one-time Soviet leader: Lenin.
Putin violates the Russian Federation constitution which says media suppose have freedom of speech. Maybe Russia can invade Alaska also because that was part of the Russia in history?
There is PLENTY of evidence, and it has been presented in this thread repeatedly by myself and other posters.
Anyone who does not believe it is free to hold his/her own view, but that is a position bereft of the facts.
They have chosen to attack the sources, but in this case the sources are limitless. Here is reporting from the Guardian and BBC. While I do not support Nazis ideology I do respect their desire to defend their country, however I’m not sure it’s a good idea for the US to partner with them in our proxy war with Russia. The US has a long history of arming horrible groups.
That's almost my favorite theory. But I think the warm water ports are more valuable to Putin.
I think the Black Sea coast is what he would settle for. That gives Russia all the major seaports in the Black Sea and creates a landlocked Ukraine. Looks like he is ready to stage an amphibious landing around Odessa. But that's going to be fiercely resisted; mines have been placed on beaches and I am sure other steps have been taken. Three Ropucha class amphibious assault ships are now on site.
Ukraine would sure love to sink those three, but I don't know how they would do it.
He will need a land bridge between Crimea and Donetsk/Lugansk. Prior, Ukrainians would cut off water and other supplies to Crimea. Mariupol is critical there.
For Odessa, it would increase the pressure on Zelenskyy to strike a deal if Putin controlled the entire coast. Kherson has fallen. Next needs to be Mykolaiv. Then Odessa. He won’t attempt a amphibious assault without first encircling the city and trying to force civilians out. It’s called the “horseshoe” strategy. You allow one safe outlet, shell and snipe the rest.
For Kiev, he first needs control of Dnipro. You won’t hear about any serious push for Kiev until Dnipro falls. Of course, if his goal is to annex territory, he needs Zelenskyy’s rubber stamp otherwise the rest of the world won’t accept it and he’ll need to control all of Ukraine. Therefore he needs Zelenskyy alive.
They have chosen to attack the sources, but in this case the sources are limitless. Here is reporting from the Guardian and BBC. While I do not support Nazis ideology I do respect their desire to defend their country, however I’m not sure it’s a good idea for the US to partner with them in our proxy war with Russia. The US has a long history of arming horrible groups.
You are one of the few posters who opts not to employ unsophisticated tactics such as the use of labels ("Putin apologist," "Russian propagandist," "FSB agent").
This video is interesting. From 1:50, a press conference by one of the Ukrainian leaders with subtitles is shown.
Never did I think someone like Dore would be this aware of the facts, and my respect for him rose after I watched this.
What evidence do you have of that? Also Dombas and Crimea is part of Ukraine regardless what Russia claims. Please post actual evidence that there are Nazi in Ukraine.
Do you live under a rock? That's like asking for evidence that there are Turks in Germany.
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No idea where you got that information, Russians were already in Donbass to protect Russians according to Putin. They used the same excuse to invade Crimea. I don't doubt there are some Nazi's in Ukraine but to invade a country for that reason is pure propaganda. There are more neo-Nazi's in Europe that should be a larger concern, they even infiltrated the German Army so maybe Putin invaded the wrong country.
Imagine if Mexico invaded Southern Texas to protect Mexicans.
Not sure there were Russians as such in Donbas, but certainly Russian equipment in Ukrainian Russians' hands.
Russia did not invade Crimea. They were already there legally. And it was the prime minister of Crimea who asked Russia for help and protection from the Nazis after the coup in 2014.
Definitely. Neonazis are one reason why Germans avoid the military, it has a scummy reputation.
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Where's the evidence? There should be tangible evidence of military buildups just as we saw from Russia the past few months.
The attack plans were on a Nato notebook that Ukrainian Russians found in a raid of a Nazi military camp.
There is an article on it, but in German. Feel free to translate it. There are photos of the notebook.
Do you live under a rock? That's like asking for evidence that there are Turks in Germany.
Not sure there were Russians as such in Donbas, but certainly Russian equipment in Ukrainian Russians' hands.
Russia did not invade Crimea. They were already there legally. And it was the prime minister of Crimea who asked Russia for help and protection from the Nazis after the coup in 2014.
Definitely. Neonazis are one reason why Germans avoid the military, it has a scummy reputation.
The attack planes were on a Nato notebook that Ukrainian Russians found in a raid of a Nazi military camp.
There is an article on it, but in German. Feel free to translate it. There are photos of the notebook.
I went to DPR in 2018. While the official narrative was that the defenders were all home grown boys with some volunteers, they had a statue of a Russian soldier guarding a Donetsk child. It’s clear a lot of Russian soldiers had some involvement in keeping DPR “independent” post 2014. Equipment, training and manpower when needed.
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