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With divorce numbers the way they are, anyone that has assets and a well paying job that doesn’t get a prenup is asking to give them up and a lot of money away unless their soon to be spouse comes in with assets and a similar paying job, but even that is risky…and after reading many of these posts I’m extremely thankful to have the wife I have. Yikes
Amen to that. If you choose well then it doesn't matter how much money she brings to the table. Choose well. Or be lucky ... In this regard it's way better to be lucky than good.
Isn't it surprising that, in spite of all this, most Americans still end up getting married and having kids at some point in their lives?
Also, married people are usually considerably wealthier than single people.
It seems that life has certain laws which you can't change no matter how hard you try.
Are we comparing apples with apples here or are we comparing apples with oranges?
What are the circumstances of each married/single person and how do they test the hypothesis?
If you have a link to some research I would like to read it.
Seeing marriage is generally a religious 'thing' this first statement is hardly surprising and religion is a huge part of the American way of life. It is right there in the centre of the culture, education, and upbringing so it is hardly surprising that marriage is a requirement for most women at least and many men. As useless as it is, it indicates commitment to one another but given a few hundred years in the future I am not sure what trends are going to show up since religion is said to be fading out, at least in some other countries, such as the UK, it is.
Kids care about their parents being married because they hear their parents opinions on this type of thing. Kids bully other kids because of such things, and parents, if they are married themselves, feel nervous of the freedom and availability they perceive the unmarried ones have. I think most married couples have more friends who are married couples although I am not sure they would be totally honest about why that is.
Are we comparing apples with apples here or are we comparing apples with oranges?
What are the circumstances of each married/single person and how do they test the hypothesis?
If you have a link to some research I would like to read it.
Seeing marriage is generally a religious 'thing' this first statement is hardly surprising and religion is a huge part of the American way of life. It is right there in the centre of the culture, education, and upbringing so it is hardly surprising that marriage is a requirement for most women at least and many men. As useless as it is, it indicates commitment to one another but given a few hundred years in the future I am not sure what trends are going to show up since religion is said to be fading out, at least in some other countries, such as the UK, it is.
Kids care about their parents being married because they hear their parents opinions on this type of thing. Kids bully other kids because of such things, and parents, if they are married themselves, feel nervous of the freedom and availability they perceive the unmarried ones have. I think most married couples have more friends who are married couples although I am not sure they would be totally honest about why that is.
It is ridiculously stupid to not realize that a government-sanctioned (usually at the local/state level) marriage is actually a legal partnership that has financial consequences. I can't tell you how many times I've warned my millennial kids (they have no student loan, credit card, or auto loan debt) to NOT get entangled with a prospective spouse that has any substantial debt in those areas with no discernible way to comfortably pay off the debt/s.
The same careful consideration must also be given in regards to the division of assets and any alimony or child support in the event of a divorce.
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Women are being taught to avoid being with men (other than for casual sex, if that) and they will be better off without them.
Tho women are not being taught to avoid being with men….we are being taught about healthy relationships. AND healthy relationships with healthy men involve sex. So I totally disagree the new normal is loneliness & sexlessness^^ in men. It may be normal for men & women who are unhealthy tho…mental health issues or no job or life.
Tho women are not being taught to avoid being with men….we are being taught about healthy relationships. AND healthy relationships with healthy men involve sex. So I totally disagree the new normal is loneliness & sexlessness^^ in men. It may be normal for men & women who are unhealthy tho…mental health issues or no job or life.
I know a number of "healthy" people who are unmarried and not doing a lot of dating.
Its a numbers game. If you don't run up the numbers, the odds are against you. And it takes prioritization to take the time to run up the numbers. Most people will not be compatible with you.
All you gentlemen so afraid marriage is a racket where the lawyers and judges conspire to see that she gets all your stuff when she tires of you for another, JUST DONT GET MARRIED.
Im not sure just what your complaining or worried about.
You are all woe is me, I'm perpetually lonely and sexless. Woe is me, women are evil and out to take all my stuff.
No matter how handsome and sexy and fit and wealthy you think you are, with the attitudes I have seen here you will continue to be lonely and sexless because no one wants to be around someone who is constantly suspicious and undermining a relationship with perceived imagined wrongdoing and self pitty.
I would bet that the divorce rate and the never-married rate is substantially higher among people who have this view than among those who regard marriage as the uniting of two souls into one holy union, ordained and blessed by God.
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I know a number of "healthy" people who are unmarried and not doing a lot of dating.
Ofc….I didn’t say anything about marriage tho. Women are not being taught to avoid being with men…we are being taught about healthy relationships with healthy men & that involves sex. To not be dependent on a man is way different than not ever having a healthy & intimate relationship with a man.
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Its a numbers game. If you don't run up the numbers, the odds are against you. And it takes prioritization to take the time to run up the numbers. Most people will not be compatible with you.
Tho compatibility or vetting for a possible long term relationship is totally different than what you or this thread is saying.^^ AND it’s way different than sleeping with men to “run up the numbers”.
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