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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 192 39.18%
No 251 51.22%
Unsure 47 9.59%
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Old 06-22-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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I am really mad. At this point, i am anti-Ukraine war with Russia. I am against all this $$$ billions going to Ukraine.

What really got me mad especially is seeing our DOJ over there in Ukraine right now, helping them. when he has a lot of stuff in America happening. He has more care about Ukraine than America. he's over there grinning like the fool he is, and he at the same time has neglected America's problems that he is supposed to be in charge of.

biden's team cares about other countries and ignores the USA.
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Old 06-22-2022, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Russia needs to be dealt with once and for all...this is our chance...everything else will take care of itself...damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead..
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Old 06-22-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Russia needs to be dealt with once and for all...this is our chance...everything else will take care of itself...damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead..
What has Russia done to America?
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Old 06-22-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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Russia needs to be dealt with once and for all...this is our chance...everything else will take care of itself...damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead..
Full speed ahead ... with what? Nuclear weapons? That is the only option left that can stop the Russians. Then indeed everything else will take care of itself. Billions of people dead, no more Russia, no more United States, just a dead radioactive world. No more worries... for anyone.
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Old 06-22-2022, 11:36 AM
 
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Full speed ahead ... with what? Nuclear weapons? That is the only option left that can stop the Russians. Then indeed everything else will take care of itself. Billions of people dead, no more Russia, no more United States, just a dead radioactive world. No more worries... for anyone.
He thinks its worth taking the risk of nuclear war to stop a country that hasnt done anything to us.
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Old 06-22-2022, 11:36 AM
 
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Ukrainians target Russia oil facilities in the Black Sea off Crimea coast.
That's a strategic move. Russia needs to sell oil. Depriving them of income is just another way to win.


Tanker prices have tripled since the war began. Shippers must now pay hundreds of thousands of dollars extra because of the danger involved. Russian tankers are now putting out to sea without a clear idea of where they are going and who will buy their oil.


The NY Times reports that some brokers have concluded that Russian oil is just not worth all the trouble. Russian May oil exports are down 10% over April.
Russian savages stole those oil rigs from Ukraine when they stole Crimea. The only question is why did Ukraine wait for so long to do it?
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Old 06-22-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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What has Russia done to America?
Nothing yet. there are warmongers in the US Government, who want to start a war. Its good for their financial interests and those that lobby for war.

USA better be careful coz they are tempting Russia to nuke us. Over some country (Ukraine) that has done no good to better America and actually possibly contain things that the Biden criminal family are protecting over there.
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Old 06-22-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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Does it matter how the money was acquired in the first place?
It always matters, but we are limited in how we can respond to it. I am not arguing against your point.

We have a free market economy, as does Britain. Foreign investment is allowed with some restrictions, of course. The number of high priced condos in Manhattan and Florida which are owned by wealthy foreigners is amazing. A lot of Americans make a fat living off of that trade so they would not want it to stop.

Considering most of the countries these buyers come from I think it is safe to assume that much of that money is a result of exploitation or corruption. Russia is a good example of that, most of that money is not a result of clever innovation, it's probably corruption.

Maybe we should be banning these purchases, but the problem is in those home countries where the corruption and exploitation is taking place. We might assume it is il-gotten gains but we are not going to prove it and if the practice is legal in their home country there isn't much that we can do.
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Old 06-22-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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Full speed ahead ... with what? Nuclear weapons? That is the only option left that can stop the Russians. Then indeed everything else will take care of itself. Billions of people dead, no more Russia, no more United States, just a dead radioactive world. No more worries... for anyone.
What utter, complete nonsense.
The US, if involved with a shooting war with Russia, need not use nuclear weapons. The Russians, 144 million strong, could not even take Ukraine without losing 1/4 of their force.


There is no monster under your bed. Never has been.
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Old 06-22-2022, 12:14 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russian savages stole those oil rigs from Ukraine when they stole Crimea. The only question is why did Ukraine wait for so long to do it?
My own opinion is, they just didn't have the missiles that would do it. Clearly, Ukraine is a bit better armed now. Important Russian ships dare not venture within 100 miles of Odesa.
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