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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:22 AM
 
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So do you approve the use of weapons considered illegal by most developed countries? I'll wait.
Are you still waiting for an answer? Probably waiting in vain. Ukrainian bots do not enter into disputes. They don't get paid for it. They are paid to publish a blown up tank, a dead soldier, so that it looks like a great advance of the offensive.
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:27 AM
 
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Welp, the woke warmongers won't like The NY Times anymore:





https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/22/u...13b1b3706dbcfc

Which one of you plan to claim that NY Times is Putin Propaganda?

It seems Putin has totally infiltrated Western media and forced liberals to report good news for him.
Out of curiosity, who is this supposed to be?
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Tucker is strictly pro Russia, so be makes no bones about it: He wants Ukraine to lose, and Russia to win. He has made that crystal clear.

I find this hard to believe. Can you cite a source like a clip or quote of him stating this?
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:16 AM
 
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I think the opposite.....The West will not let Russia "win" this war....they just won't ....
and 30 plus wealthy, powerful countries with a combined GDP many times that of Russia...
Russia's only hope is a Trump win....

Mines are what is slowing this down to a crawl....Russian mined the sh#t out the land and
Ukraine has to clear it inch by inch.....hundreds of thousands of land mines....
How so?
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:19 AM
 
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Just call me when it's all over
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Even if this is true - and I’m allowing for some squish room because actual news out of the war is notably lacking - it’s hard to imagine Ukraine is losing badly. Russia’s military has badly underperformed by any measure. I don’t think it’s wrong to say that Ukraine has won in a sense, as much by their own grit as because Russia’s military appears to really suck.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:25 AM
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Location: South of Heaven
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Retired Col. Macgregor is a "quisling"....

Pro Putin posters have been posting his videos since day one ....a year and a half ago....

Mostly likely getting a kick back from Russia....or perhaps just a nut job ...
or maybe po'd, not getting a big enough pension from uncle sam.
I'm sick and tired of people saying anyone disagreeing with the narrative on the Russia/Ukraine war is in league with or being paid off by Russia. It implies treasonous action against anyone looking to have a discussion on this issue and it's rather cowardly to try to intimidate anyone who disagrees with the narrative on this war in to silence.

This war is being fought as much in the media as it is on the ground, from a geopolitical perspective, and to that end lies, lies and more lies are being employed liberally by both sides. None of us really knows what is going on in theater and each side is relying on the lies they like better, so it would be foolish not to question the narrative, so long as you realize that the info you are using to question it is likely to be as full of lies as the info that is informing the official narrative itself.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:54 AM
 
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I'm sick and tired of people saying anyone disagreeing with the narrative on the Russia/Ukraine war is in league with or being paid off by Russia. It implies treasonous action against anyone looking to have a discussion on this issue and it's rather cowardly to try to intimidate anyone who disagrees with the narrative on this war in to silence.

This war is being fought as much in the media as it is on the ground, from a geopolitical perspective, and to that end lies, lies and more lies are being employed liberally by both sides. None of us really knows what is going on in theater and each side is relying on the lies they like better, so it would be foolish not to question the narrative, so long as you realize that the info you are using to question it is likely to be as full of lies as the info that is informing the official narrative itself.
At the sametime it seems that anyone who agrees with helping Ukraine defend itself is a woke warmonger.
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Old 08-23-2023, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I find this hard to believe. Can you cite a source like a clip or quote of him stating this?
I’ve never watched Fox News but even I know Tucker is pro Russia. Just do a Google search for - Tucker Carlson Russia. Example of search results:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...tin-propaganda

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...a/11757930002/

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Carlson’s commentaries on the Ukraine war generally reflect Putin’s speeches and claims. Russian television then plays back the monologues as evidence that Putin is right because the same is being said by “the most popular television presenter in America”.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:04 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russia would shoot down those drones attacking Moscow if they could. But they can't. Every night, more drones. Doesn't say much for the Russian air defense.


Artillery was important to Russia. Russia and Ukraine sit on the East European Plain, with no natural barriers. So, for many years artillery was the best way to be prepared. Now Russia has lost that advantage. Their older weapons cannot equal the firepower and accuracy of the newer weapons supplied to Ukraine. Russia actually has more units, but cannot equal Ukraine's effectiveness.


Russia drops cluster bombs on Ukraine.
Ukraine drops cluster bombs on Ukraine.
See the difference?



India managed to do what Russia failed a few days ago. Chandrayaan-3 had a soft landing near the moon's south pole. Russia lost control of its Luna-25 spacecraft and it crashed after losing contact with the Russian Space Control Center.
Who's yo Daddy?
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