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So you have proof you'd like to provide of this "exposure" as well?
Please share. Don't hold back.
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Originally Posted by pdw
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According to this guy, everyone that says anything positive about China is a paid propagandist.
I'm sure you have irrefutable proof that her visits are staged by the CCP too.
Please provide, thanks in advance.
Most likely. She is probably either paid directly by the state or given expense-free travel, access to production resources, as well as free support for pushing her videos on Chinese social media platforms and a huge number of bots, little pinks, and wumaos who dutifully subscribe and like her videos.
Of course, there's a high likelihood that neither she nor the CCP would admit to this, which apologists/nationalists such as yourself and others present would fall back on as proof that she wasn't. "Until they admit it, it doesn't matter how many signs there are or how obvious it may seem to anyone with half a brain, you don't have proof!! Show me proof!! I want literal proof in the form of an admission from them and even then it doesn't matter!! China #1 West bad" etc etc.
1. She only makes 1 video a week that get less than 100K views. With that viewcount, she will earn around $500 per month, which is not even enough to cover travel expenses, let alone hire staff.
2. All the videos are subtitled.
3. She only does travel videos, which is very difficult to do without help from the inside.
4. She mentions product promotions or collabs on her Youtube page and tell them to contact her on a Chinese government email address.
Most likely. She is probably either paid directly by the state or given expense-free travel, access to production resources, as well as free support for pushing her videos on Chinese social media platforms and a huge number of bots, little pinks, and wumaos who dutifully subscribe and like her videos.
Of course, there's a high likelihood that neither she nor the CCP would admit to this, which apologists/nationalists such as yourself and others present would fall back on as proof that she wasn't. "Until they admit it, it doesn't matter how many signs there are or how obvious it may seem to anyone with half a brain, you don't have proof!! Show me proof!! I want literal proof in the form of an admission from them and even then it doesn't matter!! China #1 West bad" etc etc.
so at the same time, we can conclude everyone that produces anti chinese videos are paid by the CIA, NGO or 1450.
so at the same time, we can conclude everyone that produces anti chinese videos are paid by the CIA, NGO or 1450.
Lol. No, that's not how it works. That's an extremely basic, disingenuous, and entry-level attempt at deflection.
I never said that "everyone" who posts a pro-China video is a paid CCP shill. Not once. I have friends who have posted videos about the positives in their lives in China - I've even been in some of those videos.
I can talk at length about the things I loved about life in China, about the great experiences and times I had. Unfortunately, with that current climate, there's a glut of posters like you coming out here to try to boost China by endlessly playing the "west bad/China good" line and parroting insultingly crude propaganda that's meaningless to anyone with an I.Q. over 80 as though it was an Uno reverse card.
If you guys dropped this idiocy, I'd be more than happy to just talk about how much I enjoyed riding my bike around Guangdong, the lovely people I met, the excitement of new discoveries almost daily, the amazing artwork and architecture I saw, etc. I don't view this in an east vs. west way; I view them as two different but enjoyable and positive experiences that I'm fortunate to been able to live. But instead, here we are.
Also, I will freely admit, I've seen videos that were clearly funded by Falun Dafa, who in turn are likely getting their money from an NGO or the CIA or Soros' Jewish Space Laser Corps or whatever, which are clearly biased and which I'd never use to try to prove a point. Besides, there are plenty of channels which are maintained by people who aren't American, and who express ample criticism of the US, its government, or express unflattering opinions of its various policies, who also post lucidly and factually-backed critical analyses of China's current situation who I'd cite first.
For your part, you just happened to choose someone whose a literal embodiment of the paid shill we're denigrating here. If you can't recognize that from looking at it, but somehow thought that you were pulling a fast one, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Lol. No, that's not how it works. That's an extremely basic, disingenuous, and entry-level attempt at deflection.
I never said that "everyone" who posts a pro-China video is a paid CCP shill. Not once. I have friends who have posted videos about the positives in their lives in China - I've even been in some of those videos.
I can talk at length about the things I loved about life in China, about the great experiences and times I had. Unfortunately, with that current climate, there's a glut of posters like you coming out here to try to boost China by endlessly playing the "west bad/China good" line and parroting insultingly crude propaganda that's meaningless to anyone with an I.Q. over 80 as though it was an Uno reverse card.
If you guys dropped this idiocy, I'd be more than happy to just talk about how much I enjoyed riding my bike around Guangdong, the lovely people I met, the excitement of new discoveries almost daily, the amazing artwork and architecture I saw, etc. I don't view this in an east vs. west way; I view them as two different but enjoyable and positive experiences that I'm fortunate to been able to live. But instead, here we are.
Also, I will freely admit, I've seen videos that were clearly funded by Falun Dafa, who in turn are likely getting their money from an NGO or the CIA or Soros' Jewish Space Laser Corps or whatever, which are clearly biased and which I'd never use to try to prove a point. Besides, there are plenty of channels which are maintained by people who aren't American, and who express ample criticism of the US, its government, or express unflattering opinions of its various policies, who also post lucidly and factually-backed critical analyses of China's current situation who I'd cite first.
For your part, you just happened to choose someone whose a literal embodiment of the paid shill we're denigrating here. If you can't recognize that from looking at it, but somehow thought that you were pulling a fast one, then I really don't know what to tell you.
You're right, we are.
well, if you have seen those video you've mentioned, and you still think she's paid by ccp, then I guess we're done.
Most likely. She is probably either paid directly by the state or given expense-free travel, access to production resources, as well as free support for pushing her videos on Chinese social media platforms and a huge number of bots, little pinks, and wumaos who dutifully subscribe and like her videos.
Of course, there's a high likelihood that neither she nor the CCP would admit to this, which apologists/nationalists such as yourself and others present would fall back on as proof that she wasn't. "Until they admit it, it doesn't matter how many signs there are or how obvious it may seem to anyone with half a brain, you don't have proof!! Show me proof!! I want literal proof in the form of an admission from them and even then it doesn't matter!! China #1 West bad" etc etc.
You seem to make a LOT of assumptions about anyone that says anything contrary to the US/UK narrative.
Yes, that's exactly how it works. If you have no proof, then anything you accuse them of is speculation and baseless.
I'm STILL waiting for proof that Nathan Rich is a CCP operative.
If you can't provide proof, how about you refute some of his videos and talking points.
1. She only makes 1 video a week that get less than 100K views. With that viewcount, she will earn around $500 per month, which is not even enough to cover travel expenses, let alone hire staff.
2. All the videos are subtitled.
3. She only does travel videos, which is very difficult to do without help from the inside.
4. She mentions product promotions or collabs on her Youtube page and tell them to contact her on a Chinese government email address.
Could it be more obvious?
And of course you have full visibility into her family's finances right?
Subtitling videos is proof of what exactly?
Traveling is "difficult" to do in China? What is this, 1950s China? I thought that's what the HSR and other excellent modes of transport in China were for.
Where does it say it's a government email address?
Besides, there are plenty of channels which are maintained by people who aren't American, and who express ample criticism of the US, its government, or express unflattering opinions of its various policies, who also post lucidly and factually-backed critical analyses of China's current situation who I'd cite first.
Such as...?
I know the two motorcycle buddies and their fat friend. Who else? I need more impartial youtubers because the ones I know of are all pro-China.
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For your part, you just happened to choose someone whose a literal embodiment of the paid shill we're denigrating here. If you can't recognize that from looking at it, but somehow thought that you were pulling a fast one, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Again, all accusation, no proof.
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