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View Poll Results: Now that sex and gender are different, should we change their descriptive words to distinguish them?
Yes 2 6.25%
Unsure 3 9.38%
No 27 84.38%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-14-2022, 09:24 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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People born with XY chromosomes, or XXY or any other variant with a "Y", can NOT get pregnant. Males can't have babies...period.

Ironically, these are the same people that told us to "Trust the Science" during the peak of Covid.
True, it’s the “y” that makes the male. We could talk about very rare chromosome failures or abnormalities, but the fact remains that you can’t simply become a member of the opposite sex/gender just because you believe it to be true.
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Old 07-14-2022, 09:45 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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it's all a big mess.

They rail against binary 'constructs' , yet demand you recognize them as one.
Rail against binary stereotypes yet use those stereotypes to determine if a child fits one or the other.
Exactly. For years now, when I would hear "he feels like a woman," I would ask, "How does a woman FEEL?" I'm a woman, but I don't claim to have universal knowledge of how it "feels" to be a woman. Like we all feel the same?!?

And now that the word "woman" can't even be defined, how in the world can a man think he feels like one? Like that awful episode of Dr Phil, where the *trans-whatever couldn't define woman, but said anyone who wants to be one, can be. How can anyone within IQ higher than that of a door knob believe this stuff?

Everyone should dress how they want, wear makeup and style their hair however they want, participate in activities they want (grouped by biological sex if appropriate), but stop thinking you can ever BE the opposite sex. Stop trying to force others to belief your unscientific, biologically impossible bullshyte.

*Sorry, I can't remember if this person considered themself to be a transman or a transwoman. They had a lot of facial hair, but was wearing a dress as I recall.
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Old 07-14-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Austin
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there are only two sexes, male and female, but many cultures have a word descriptor for a third gender. for example, in india there are "Hijras," in the philippines "Bakla," in native american culture "two-spirited people," in mexico "Muxe," and in the pacific islands "Mahu."

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Old 07-14-2022, 10:20 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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"Now that sex and gender are different"

Shouldn't that be the debate? Seems to me your poll is based on a faulty premise that presupposes that debate has been had and settled to the satisfaction of participants from both sides.
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Old 07-14-2022, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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"Now that sex and gender are different"

Shouldn't that be the debate? Seems to me your poll is based on a faulty premise that presupposes that debate has been had and settled to the satisfaction of participants from both sides.
The OP wants to infer that the issue is settled by his subject line. It's not. Gender is male or female; it's not "fluid".
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:04 AM
 
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there are only two sexes, male and female, but many cultures have a word descriptor for a third gender. for example, in india there are "Hijras," in the philippines "Bakla," in native american culture "two-spirited people," in mexico "Muxe," and in the pacific islands "Mahu."
Don't forget "nutz".
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:44 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Gender and sex roles and the social partitions between the two permeate almost everything. That's why this is such a confusing and divisive issue to get adjusted to. I was talking to a Pueblo Indian man this past weekend and his first language was a Keres dialect (probably eastern Keres) and he made the point that there are two versions of many words and phrases, one for males and one for females. They are mutually intelligible within the tribal or family circle. If you ask a question of two speakers, male and female, they might answer with different words for the same response. I remember reading of the same sort of thing with the Natchez tribe in the 1600s -- male and female languages. The early French pioneers learned the language from women and were ridiculed by the men of the tribe. So, in these cases, even what language version you use reflects on your gender.
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The early French pioneers learned the language from women and were ridiculed by the men of the tribe. So, in these cases, even what language version you use reflects on your gender.
I don't even think you need to go so such exotic realms.

Heck even Spanish has masculine and feminine words.
Asian language , such as Thai has different pronunciations depending on what sex is speaking and to whom.

Also, along the same topic..I don't find it compelling that some ancient tribes or cultures have 'third' gender ideas. They also believed the gods made crops wither. Or that people could be animal gods in human form.

They use words like Trans man and Trans woman all the time. Everyone knows what that is and have used it regardless of your stance. It is a descriptive term, we understand it.

No reason to try to say a Trans man IS a man. A trans man Is a Trans man.
It makes perfect sense to say a Trans Man can get pregnant. What's the issue?
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Old 07-14-2022, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Gender and sex are not synonyms. We English-speakers only think they are because our language is not gendered the way Latin languages and others are.

Gender refers to language. Sex refers to people. Always has.

It is improper and ridiculous to assign a "gender" to a human being. We're so puritanical that using the word "sex" makes us feel uncomfortable, so we have swapped in the word "gender".
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Old 07-14-2022, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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You didn't put my choice in the poll:

x - "Knock this sht off, it's way beyond absurd, now. The majority will not be ruled by the Marxist minority. We see what you're doing, and we aren't going for it."
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