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Old 08-29-2022, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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"Complete" is a matter of opinion and I wouldn't expect Ms. Bobb to be on the same page as the DoJ. You didn't ask if a "complete" or "satisfactory" inventory was supplied. She got one, she doesn't like it. Too bad.
How would she or Trump or anyone else know if they received a "complete" inventory of the seized documents?

I wonder if they have a comprehensive list of all the stuff he stole somewhere at MAL...?

 
Old 08-29-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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Trump was off the rails after losing the election too; he was backed into a corner and lashing out like a crazy man. He's doing the same thing now. He tried everything after losing the election, including stealing votes in Georgia, stealing the election with fake electors, insurrection.

Perhaps that's how Trump acts when he realizes he cannot change what's about to happen and he really doesn't want it to happen. Perhaps he's trying for insurrection 2.0. He's even trying to get FBI staff to revolt.
The man has multiple issues. He is clearly experiencing severe stress.

Once he attained the presidency the rape charges were on hold. The fraud cases were in limbo.

No one he owed money to was going to be able to recover it.

Most of the lawsuits he would have had to personally deal with were put on hold. No one was going to get the president of the USA to sit for a deposition if he didn't want to.

All that has changed. Small wonder losing the election put the man into a panic. It could have been worsened by his Adderall use.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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It seems the majority of the paperwork was not the alleged classified docs, which the lawyers could have at least watched those being listed.
Probably because the warrant isn't merely for classified documents. As is 100% routine when serving a search warrant, if a law enforcement officer finds a container that holds material specifically mentioned in the warrant, he will bring the entire container - and other containers found nearby. (That last bit is also called out in the warrant, btw.)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-document.html

If you're serving a warrant pertaining to a white-collar crime and find banker's boxes marked "Financial records", you take those. You also take the boxes next to them, even if they're marked "Totally not financial records."

Then you set up a filter team that isn't part of the investigation, and the filter team sorts through the confiscated materials. If, for instance, some of the docs are privileged lawyer/client communication, they're not passed on to the investigators. The FBI has done this sort of stuff before.

Of course, a semi-competent defense lawyers will try to clawback as much evidence as possible as being inadmissible. But Trump does not appear to have one of those.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Except you’ve been telling us he’s guilty and have been predicting indictments and telling us for 6 years he’s guilty and going to prison.
Two to three years is not an unusual length of time for a complex investigation to go on before an indictment decision is made.

If he somehow escapes indictment by all the different LE agencies that are investigating him, it won't be because he's not guilty. He and Miss Lindsey are already calling for a civil war if he's indicted.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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They're called "Truths" and shares are ReTruths. It's very silly, especially considering their content.
That's amazing.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 03:00 PM
 
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Two to three years is not an unusual length of time for a complex investigation to go on before an indictment decision is made.
The legal system does not operate to the 24-hour news cycle's schedule.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Probably because the warrant isn't merely for classified documents. As is 100% routine when serving a search warrant, if a law enforcement officer finds a container that holds material specifically mentioned in the warrant, he will bring the entire container - and other containers found nearby. (That last bit is also called out in the warrant, btw.)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-document.html

If you're serving a warrant pertaining to a white-collar crime and find banker's boxes marked "Financial records", you take those. You also take the boxes next to them, even if they're marked "Totally not financial records."

Then you set up a filter team that isn't part of the investigation, and the filter team sorts through the confiscated materials. If, for instance, some of the docs are privileged lawyer/client communication, they're not passed on to the investigators. The FBI has done this sort of stuff before.

Of course, a semi-competent defense lawyers will try to clawback as much evidence as possible as being inadmissible. But Trump does not appear to have one of those.

Couldn't rep you again, yet.

The filter team - or taint team - was also specifically called out in the affidavit.
 
Old 08-29-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Two to three years is not an unusual length of time for a complex investigation to go on before an indictment decision is made.

If he somehow escapes indictment by all the different LE agencies that are investigating him, it won't be because he's not guilty. He and Miss Lindsey are already calling for a civil war if he's indicted.
In other words no proof and no word on when they’re going to get him. Just keep waiting.

Please post proof to both of them calling for a civil war if he’s indicted, and please be specific?
 
Old 08-29-2022, 03:03 PM
 
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No, his tweets or posts or whatever they call them at his private online playground tell the tale.
They're called "Truths" and shares are ReTruths. It's very silly, especially considering their content.
So then, Truth be told, are they really not paying their bills?
 
Old 08-29-2022, 03:03 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Because the possibility of Trump being guilty never entered your mind. Also, is this the first time government documents have been redacted? Because a lot of you are acting like it is.
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So you would feel better if classified documents and sensitive information is revealed? To ease YOUR mind?
wow. The poster you're ranting at is one of the few on here that is basically middle of the road, for the most part neither right nor left in many of their postings. You're proving that if people don't automatically fall in lockstep with you in your media driven hate of Trump, then you'll pigeonhole them as a Trump supporter and rage at them. You people have no boundaries.

And fwiw, he has a right to be concerned in the points he'd listed, most thinking people are.
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