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View Poll Results: Will your next vehicle purchase be an electric vehicle?
No - I'm sticking with gas powered 144 78.26%
Yes, I prefer the electric vehicle 24 13.04%
Other type powered vehicle 11 5.98%
I don't drive 5 2.72%
Voters: 184. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-23-2022, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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I don't drive, but if/when I get a car it'll be a regular ol' fashioned one w/o the bells and whistles. No computerized crap with plastic parts either.
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Old 09-23-2022, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I am curious if the left have convinced you to go EV


What a silly premise. Anyone making a choice about a car purchase based on politics - right, left or center - is just plain idiotic.

The technology just isn't there yet for efficient and practical electric cars for someone who does a lot of long distance (7+ hours) driving. A hybrid, maybe, would be practical, but maybe not. Either way, I'll wait for an electric car that works for me.

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Old 09-23-2022, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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And therein lies the problem.

EVs are so deficient that they don't do everything. Therefore you must also have a second vehicle powered by the "old" technology.

That doesn't sound like "the future."

People who are doing very well will simply have a few different vehicles. But for this tech to become "the future," it has to make sense for the single mother of three who is a waitress.
I agree and hope they can bring some lower cost models that also has a longer range to the market in the near term. The benefits of EV are tremendous but there are cons as well.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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Absolutely not.

I will not be giving up sportscars for absurd progressive trends, that elite liberals don't even follow with their Lamborghini SUVs and private jets. You can't charge a Tesla in 5 minutes or find a charging station every 5 blocks. Then there's the absurd $60K base price point for a depreciating asset, hell no.



Well stated.
Be sure and wave as the Tesla Plaid @ over 1,000 hp and crazy torque numbers (one dyno test showed 1,101 hp by 905 foot pounds) blows by you at 1/2 throttle.


I'll grant you much of the, "let's change over right now or we are all going to asphyxiate and roast away" sloganeering from the left about EVs is just that. Sloganeering, undoable nonsense and political posturing.


The other side...................EVs longer term simply make way more sense. Fewer parts, much lower revolving and reciprocating mass, roughly 1/20th (probably better long term) waste heat, freakish instant power, HP to weight and complexity ratios that gassers nor diesels can touch.

Tesla is shipping Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries right now, VW, Tesla, Ford and I think GM are working on brand wide at least common batteries that will be hot-swappable across many cars. Obviously this would require material handling equipment but we've been doing this with battery powered forklifts and coal mining equipment for 30+ years.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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I just traded my EV for a C6 Vette brett. I missed having a C6. The EV was best car i ever had on cost to drive at $6 a month to charge. I missed the sound of a V8 nate and the C6 is the only car i really love. Gonna get super charged soon and other mods.
Nice.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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All the market does now is allow us a choice, if you want gas only its there. all electric its there and between the 2 hybrids. I'm surprised the oil industry hasn't gotten onboard with providing charging stations, just another commodity they could be selling but I forget they don't own the stations anymore....
Bingo.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Not until I can drive it 500 miles on a charge, stop at a station, and recharge in 5 minutes, then be on my way again.
That's the big thing stopping a lot of people from going to EVs. It's like the early 1900s when you had to carry cans of gasoline with you if you ventured too far from home because there might not be anywhere to fill up.

As the grid expands, EVs will become more and more viable. I doubt we'll ever see the total elimination of ICEs, but I don't think they will be available in passenger vehicles and light duty trucks forever. ICEs will also be progressively more expensive to operate as petroleum products see a drop in demand, which will generate a drop in production, which will mean less availability at a higher cost. A lot of filling stations will simply not be able to sell enough product to make it worth their while to stock it, and we'll be back to the early 1900s with jerry cans full of petrol loaded into your antique vehicles for trips longer than a few miles.

Everything in life moves in a circle.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:42 AM
 
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Be sure and wave as the Tesla Plaid @ over 1,000 hp and crazy torque numbers (one dyno test showed 1,101 hp by 905 foot pounds) blows by you at 1/2 throttle.


I'll grant you much of the, "let's change over right now or we are all going to asphyxiate and roast away" sloganeering from the left about EVs is just that. Sloganeering, undoable nonsense and political posturing.


The other side...................EVs longer term simply make way more sense. Fewer parts, much lower revolving and reciprocating mass, roughly 1/20th (probably better long term) waste heat, freakish instant power, HP to weight and complexity ratios that gassers nor diesels can touch.

Tesla is shipping Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries right now, VW, Tesla, Ford and I think GM are working on brand wide at least common batteries that will be hot-swappable across many cars. Obviously this would require material handling equipment but we've been doing this with battery powered forklifts and coal mining equipment for 30+ years.
The Plaid is definitely badass. Hell, even the Rivian pickup runs in the 11's. That being said, given the choice of a Plaid or a CTS-V, I'll go with the Cadillac. For me, it is much more than just the 1/4 mile times, no matter how impressive they may be.
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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Great gas mileage. If you know a truck that can tow 4,000 pounds which is what my camper weighs and gets 42 MPG (less when towing I know) I would pounce on it. Oh and it co#ts around $25,000 new. The price is really cheap and you get the mileage on top of it.
Do you realize that when towing, you won't get anywhere close to 42 MPG? Also, you're lugging around lots of extra weight with batteries.

The average gas bill is somewhere around 3000-3500 bucks per year. You'll save what, 1,000 bucks a year?

The vehicle has 191 Horsepower. It has very little power for a truck. You can tow with that vehicle just the same as towing with any normal car.

It sounds like you're looking for an economy car, not a truck.
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Old 09-23-2022, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Why not?

If the average commuter drives less than 50 miles per day, or about roughly 1400 a month. Even the smallest EV that you can buy now, gets 50 miles.

I completely understand that not every car is parked in a suburban driveway that has access to an electrical outlet. But there are people working on that problem. It's going to take some time.

People here think that Rome was built in a day.




Nobody thinks that Rome was built in a day.

They just don't want to be forced to move there.
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