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Old 11-22-2022, 02:47 PM
 
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The question is whether minorities should have representation. That is, of course, a matter of opinion. You've made yours clear.
No, it's not. It's about a company selling a product to a specific audience.

A white person is a minority on BET. Do you believe whites should demand to be main characters with main storylines in all BET programming?

Do you believe a company should be able to create a product for a specific target audience?
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:48 PM
 
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They moved on ... and LGBTQ went after the NEW network also. Publicly attacking Candace Cameron Burre. Why?
Because starting a network that directly caters to those who think that a central part of your identity is inferior is a bit of an a-hole move.

"OMG, they put a Hanukkah celebration in the Hallmark channel - that's supposed to be about Christmas! I'll open a new, guaranteed Jew-free network!"
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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Because starting a network that directly caters to those who think that a central part of your identity is inferior is a bit of an a-hole move.

"OMG, they put a Hanukkah celebration in the Hallmark channel - that's supposed to be about Christmas! I'll open a new, guaranteed Jew-free network!"
Yep. They deserve all the backlash they’re getting.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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I am not Chinese food nor am I a breakfast taco. A restaurant can serve what they want, it's a problem if you deny service to certain groups. I haven't encountered too many places that have problems with people coming in demanding cuisine they don't have.
That's exactly what happened with Hallmark. The network was attacked and demanded to change it's product to serve a specific group. And it did.

A higher up left and started a network to target that original audience. And LGBTQ are attacking that product also, and demanding that the new product be changed also.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:53 PM
 
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It's already done. Hallmark has LBGTQ movies now.

And as a response to the attack on Christian based programming, another network was created. One of the higher ups at Hallmark, left Hallmark and started the new channel.

But the win wasn't enough for the LGBTQ, who successful changed an entire network.

They moved on ... and LGBTQ went after the NEW network also. Publicly attacking Candace Cameron Burre. Why? They got what they wanted from Hallmark. Celebrate the victory and call it a day. Nope.

LGBTQ is on the ATTACK. They are going after networks that already have a specific audience and demanding that the network change their programming/marketing/scripts/actors/etc.

Why are they trying to control all entertainment that is not targeted at them?

It's like going to a Chinese restaurant and demanding that they start serving pizza. They don't serve pizza, they serve Chinese food. If you want Chinese food, you go there. Because they want to provide Chinese food to people who want Chinese food.

If you don't want Chinese food, you go somewhere else.
Candace Cameron Bure was attacked because she clearly stated she wanted nothing to do with anything that wasn't a "traditional" marriage. She's a bigot, clear and simple, and deserves to be attacked for the implication that anything different than what she believes is bad. She's also married to a communist.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:53 PM
 
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Do you believe a company should be able to create a product for a specific target audience?
Should be? Of course. But there's a serious ethical issue with defining the product specifically as excluding of a vulnerable minority.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:53 PM
 
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Because starting a network that directly caters to those who think that a central part of your identity is inferior is a bit of an a-hole move.

"OMG, they put a Hanukkah celebration in the Hallmark channel - that's supposed to be about Christmas! I'll open a new, guaranteed Jew-free network!"
They've had Hannukah movies, and movies where Jews and Christians have dated.

Epic post fail.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:55 PM
 
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Should be? Of course. But there's a serious ethical issue with defining the product specifically as excluding of a vulnerable minority.
The product has nothing too do with the minority.

You continually dance around the post that they are not targeting that audience.

Do you order Chinese food at the pizza place? Demand that they make you egg rolls in the pizza furnace?
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:57 PM
 
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Generally, in polite English language, we include a noun when using an adjective. To reduce people to an adjective is rude. We don't say "I went to a group for autistics," because that would be inappropriate. We say, "I went to a group for people with autism" or "... for autistic people."

"A group of elderlies made this quilt at a bee last year." No. We would say, "elderly ladies" (or "elderly men").

There are some exceptions, of course. We do say "teens" and that's not considered rude. And we do use nationalities and that's fine. "The Japanese did this," or "Most Americans do that," are both fine.

Most of the time, though, we do include the person in phrases describing a group. Gay and Black are adjectives, so it's off-putting to say "the gays" or "the blacks," when discussing a group of people.
Off-putting to whom?
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:57 PM
 
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They've had Hannukah movies, and movies where Jews and Christians have dated.

Epic post fail.
Epic reading comprehension fail. The point was should including those plotlines lead someone to create a Jew free channel and publicly announce that’s what they were doing. That’s exactly what Candace whatever her name is did with this new channel.
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