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Old 11-25-2022, 04:24 PM
 
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Not exactly a big Biden fan, but if he said that, I agree with him. And if we actually read the Second Amendment (which was written at a time when the most dangerous thing out there was a musket, and there was concern of the British invading), I don't think it should be unconstitutional to try to do something about that.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That, to me, doesn't say that any type of conceivable weapon, in all of the future (which the founders had no idea about, like nuclear rockets and crap, and whatever's still coming in the future), should be allowed to be kept by private citizens. It just does not say that. It says that there is a general right to have some kind of weapon.

Also, it specifically mentions a well-regulated militia, as being the whole point of the right. (Doesn't mention any other reason.) That, to me, in modern times is clearly the National Guard.

Anyone involved in the military, public safety, highly trained private security, etc. Fine, they can have something more powerful. And maybe more consideration depending on how rural you are, etc. But the mentally unstable, angsty 18 year old kids, in suburban areas? Do we really need to be selling them these AR-15's and such?

If you look at the Stephen Paddock shooting in Las Vegas 2017, killed 60 people in mere minutes, to me it seems like that 60 number would have been very hard to do, with a baseball bat, you know. But, if we're going to allow people to have guns, as per the all-holy 2A, then I think it still would have been quite hard to kill that many people that quickly, with just a pistol. So yeah, regulate the damn guns. Balance the various interests, appropriately. Let me just throw this out there, maybe one interest we could consider could be the innocent, precious 5 year old children at elementary schools. (That must be the extremist liberal in me talking.)
Wrong on all counts.
You've got some severe history review to do.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Meh, I think they should be banning all guns. I'm fed up with the on-going carnage especially where children are concerned. It's just an advertising slogan for the gun lobby that somehow a well armed citizens' militia could overcome a tyrant in the White House. Did a citizen's militia kick Trump out? Nope. All citizens' militias manage to do is to create occasions for blood shed like Ruby Hill or Waco or the Oklahoma City bombing where Timothy McVeigh managed to off 168 people, including a bunch of little kids in the daycare center of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

Let's hear it for well armed militias! No, let's not.


How about we try keeping violent criminals locked up and crazy people institutionalized instead?

You know, like we did for the first 200 years or so....
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:27 PM
 
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Meh, I think they should be banning all guns. I'm fed up with the on-going carnage especially where children are concerned. It's just an advertising slogan for the gun lobby that somehow a well armed citizens' militia could overcome a tyrant in the White House. Did a citizen's militia kick Trump out? Nope. All citizens' militias manage to do is to create occasions for blood shed like Ruby Hill or Waco or the Oklahoma City bombing where Timothy McVeigh managed to off 168 people, including a bunch of little kids in the daycare center of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

Let's hear it for well armed militias! No, let's not.
If you can assure me that after the guns are banned, no children will be harmed, I would be right there with you.

In reality, you just want to murder children! When law abiding citizens don’t have guns, only bad guys will have guns.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:34 PM
 
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Having a handgun saved me from at least getting mugged twice, maybe murdered who knows.
I will NOT give up my guns.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:34 PM
 
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How about we try keeping violent criminals locked up and crazy people institutionalized instead?

You know, like we did for the first 200 years or so....
That would be a solid start.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:39 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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How about we try keeping violent criminals locked up and crazy people institutionalized instead?

You know, like we did for the first 200 years or so....
This might be an example:

https://thebaynet.com/officers-recov...op-in-waldorf/

Possession of any handgun by an individual under 21 is illegal in the State.

Note the bail.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:41 PM
 
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This might be an example:

https://thebaynet.com/officers-recov...op-in-waldorf/

Possession of any handgun by an individual under 21 is illegal in the State.

Note the bail.
Odds are they will commit more crimes while out on the signature bond.
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Lets start with the Secret Service.
Touche.
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Old 11-25-2022, 05:16 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Odds are they will commit more crimes while out on the signature bond.
Maybe. But at least they promised to not be around firearms.

This happens regularly in that particular County (Charles) and while other cases for different crimes name the Judge involved about 90% of the time, the stories that feature illegal gun possession with O.R. never have the Judge's name.
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Old 11-25-2022, 05:20 PM
 
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Yes, and good luck killing 60 people from a window, with a baseball bat.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people, with guns...


Semiautomatics have been the most popular type of gun sold to the American public since 1911. They make up probably 75% of the over 300 million guns in America.

When did people start using them in the above manner?
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