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"Mike Rowe warned Monday that the labor force participation rate is the most "chilling" economic metric, citing millions of "able-bodied men" who are not working or looking for jobs."
I honestly don't understand this. The argument down political lines usually goes something like this:
Red: They are getting money from the government. Covid relief is still ongoing, and people would prefer that over working. Its crippling the country. Blue: Corporations are not paying people what they are entitled to and thus people aren't working for these deplorable places anymore.
The comments under the article are pretty much all over the place, with many loons. Reminding of a forum I know and love :-)
So which is true? maybe a mixture of both? I just have a hard time believing that people won't work and think they can make more from the government. Which I haven't seen. My brother can't work (medical). He gets $800 a month. Even in good times it doesn't let him live all too comfortably at all. Nor should he. He has a 1 bedroom apt in the a "low rent" help area. Has to work with community support often to get meals on wheels, recycled clothing, etc.
I don't know any able bodied/minded males that won't work. I'm sure they are out there though.
Thoughts?
Who is MIke Rowe, and where is he getting his statistics?
I mean, really, people are just commenting upon this statement and making all kinds of speculations as to why, but the only reference is to a 'Mike Rowe' fellow and what he said, not to study done or a database that I can tell.
I suppose you could say the same of slavery. When one isn't given the choice, it's oppression.
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Listen, hon. If you want to really feel oppressed, pick up an M-16 and charge the enemy line.
Until you've done that, you have no idea what real oppression is.
Let's see what women like you have to say when you have full equality, including the equality of dying on the battlefield in the tens of thousands.
The fact women live longer than men is because their lives are generally easier.
Listen, hun, if you want to draft women go for it. I am not opposed to that. I actually think the time has come. But if men would stop starting wars men wouldn't be dying in them. Women have virtually no power on a global scale. We aren't starting the wars you are dying in.
Basically, this. A recent article in the Financial Times (behind a paywall, so I won't link it) considered the labor-force participation rate among different age groups... 20-25, 25-30 and so on. How did this participation rate evolve over recent years? It turns out that post-Covid, there was a big drop in the participation rate for the 50-65 contingent. Simply put, people are choosing to retire early. It isn't because 30-year-olds are lazy and alienated and devoting their precious time to video games... but because 50-year-olds are, ahem, spending more time on City Data.
actually, it's in the 60-65 group. LFPR drops from ~90% under 50, to 85% for 50-54, 80% for 55-59, down to 64% for 60-64
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Basically, this. A recent article in the Financial Times (behind a paywall, so I won't link it) considered the labor-force participation rate among different age groups... 20-25, 25-30 and so on. How did this participation rate evolve over recent years? It turns out that post-Covid, there was a big drop in the participation rate for the 50-65 contingent. Simply put, people are choosing to retire early. It isn't because 30-year-olds are lazy and alienated and devoting their precious time to video games... but because 50-year-olds are, ahem, spending more time on City Data.
Who is MIke Rowe, and where is he getting his statistics?
I mean, really, people are just commenting upon this statement and making all kinds of speculations as to why, but the only reference is to a 'Mike Rowe' fellow and what he said, not to study done.
Mike Rowe is most famous for the TV series Dirty Jobs.
He feels college is wasted on a large number of men who should be going into the trades. He's probably right.
I started watching him in 1995 when he was co-host of a San Francisco-based show called Evening Magazine. The best part of the show was his corny jokes that flew over the head of his co-host, Malou Nubla. She used to get this blank stare that was funnier than his stupid jokes.
Who is MIke Rowe, and where is he getting his statistics?
I mean, really, people are just commenting upon this statement and making all kinds of speculations as to why, but the only reference is to a 'Mike Rowe' fellow and what he said, not to study done or a database that I can tell.
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Originally Posted by mattja
Mike Rowe is most famous for the TV series Dirty Jobs.
He feels college is wasted on a large number of men who should be going into the trades. He's probably right.
I started watching him in 1995 when he was co-host of a San Francisco-based show called Evening Magazine. The best part of the show was his corny jokes that flew over the head of his co-host, Malou Nubla. She used to get this blank stare that was funnier than his stupid jokes.
I've been a huge fan of his since the Dirty Jobs gig. He's a pretty intelligent person, that speaks with a lot of common sense, truth and logic.
It is if you have no choice but to be "provided for". When you visit a zoo and see all the animals behind bars, in cages, being provided for, do you ever get the feeling they are oppressed. How about prisoners that are being provided for?
Anyway most women today work, earn and income so they are not being provided for, they are providing for themselves. Those that arent working a job outside the home are certainly providing a service.
I suppose you could say the same of slavery. When one isn't given the choice, it's oppression.
Listen, hun, if you want to draft women go for it. I am not opposed to that. I actually think the time has come. But if men would stop starting wars men wouldn't be dying in them. Women have virtually no power on a global scale. We aren't starting the wars you are dying in.
There are numerous women in prime minister roles across the world. And wars are sometimes necessary. You cannot run and hide when your border or marine shipping lanes are under threat.
You know as well as I that women will never be drafted in any number into infantry roles. They are incapable of doing the job. Women are too slow, too weak and not aggressive enough.
You should be happy you're being "oppressed" in this case.
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