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Old 01-27-2023, 09:01 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Yeah, seeing that, limiting mag size is about as effective as pissing in the wind.
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Old 01-27-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Just about all the ideas ignore the real cause - and so it will not be fixed.


The cause is: More and More Americans just do not value life, their own or anyone else's. They are lacking in empathy and compassion. They are quick to anger, and slow to forgive. They have no patience for negotiation or compromise, and see no reason "hear both sides." They did not learn to fear consequences as a youngster.
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I rather wonder about that, dealing with so many men who refuse to do safe sex (and hence, we have been ships that passed in the night). But, as one of them has said, "A man who cares not for his own health is not likely to care about the health of others.".

.........oh, and yes, they often refuse to negotiate, compromise, or to pay attention to my concerns.
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Yeah, seeing that, limiting mag size is about as effective as pissing in the wind.
Sometimes, it is even less than that. We were trained to switch magazines by touch with a round in the pipe, our eyes over the sights, ready to shoot while we were reloading.
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Old 01-27-2023, 09:10 AM
 
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The problem is we allow the mentality ill to roam free.
All this bleeding heart crap to make them feel normal and whatever.
Ignoring warning signs, slipping thru the cracks.
At an early age I think most parents know their kid is a mental case.
They should be institutionalized and kept away from society.
Bring back asylums, lock these people up. They can still live a decent life in an institution.
If you lock them up early enough they won’t know the difference.
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Old 01-27-2023, 09:13 AM
 
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I rather wonder about that, dealing with so many men who refuse to do safe sex (and hence, we have been ships that passed in the night). But, as one of them has said, "A man who cares not for his own health is not likely to care about the health of others.".

.........oh, and yes, they often refuse to negotiate, compromise, or to pay attention to my concerns.

Sometimes, it is even less than that. We were trained to switch magazines by touch with a round in the pipe, our eyes over the sights, ready to shoot while we were reloading.
I wanted to show something more realistic. Sure, I could have posted a video of Jerry Miculek, he can reload a revolver faster than that guy did his AR. But that isn't reality.
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Old 01-27-2023, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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I wanted to show something more realistic. Sure, I could have posted a video of Jerry Miculek, he can reload a revolver faster than that guy did his AR. But that isn't reality.
If you say so, don't know who that is. I just know what the USMC FAST https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine...Force_Regiment taught us with the M1911.....which I use this day with my H&K USP.
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The problem is we allow the mentality ill to roam free.
All this bleeding heart crap to make them feel normal and whatever.
Ignoring warning signs, slipping thru the cracks.
At an early age I think most parents know their kid is a mental case.
They should be institutionalized and kept away from society.
Bring back asylums, lock these people up. They can still live a decent life in an institution.
If you lock them up early enough they won’t know the difference.
Well, the second problem is that we don't want to give our politicians the power to lock up people who aren't right in the head because......they will decide that means people who don't think the way they think people should think and then lock up anyone who doesn't think that way.
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Newsom tasted absolute dictator power with Covid and found he liked it …….. a lot
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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If you say so, don't know who that is. I just know what the USMC FAST https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine...Force_Regiment taught us with the M1911.....which I use this day with my H&K USP.
Okay, that is great for you. In other posts you've claimed you've been trained in hand to hand combat to kill. Obviously, many of us don't have your experience. I'm not denying anything you can do. All I posted was an average person doing a mag change. Why does everything have to be some sort of an argument ? We're on the same side.

For what it's worth, Jerry is a professional speed and competition shooter. He's been called the greatest shooter ever. One of his many records is 12 shots (one reload) out of a 6 shot revolver in 2.99 seconds, with a playing card sized grouping at 7 yards.
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Okay, that is great for you. In other posts you've claimed you've been trained in hand to hand combat to kill. Obviously, many of us don't have your experience. I'm not denying anything you can do. All I posted was an average person doing a mag change. Why does everything have to be some sort of an argument ? We're on the same side.

For what it's worth, Jerry is a professional speed and competition shooter. He's been called the greatest shooter ever. One of his many records is 12 shots (one reload) out of a 6 shot revolver in 2.99 seconds, with a playing card sized grouping at 7 yards.
Not arguing just for the benefit of our studio audience at home.....over the decades, if FAST was training those in the Navy anti terrorism tactics, they, to cut to the chase, must have trained a lot of people.

Now, to take it a bit further, this, reloading while one is the pipe, can be a demonstration how those who think one way to put others at a disadvantage.

A problem I have with my Browning Hi Power is that if the magazine is not inserted, the gun, as made, cannot be fired. This was probably done as a safety feature due to people shooting themselves during gun cleaning*......and for the purpose here, I am sure some politician could insist on this to slow down reloading and shooting.

But as illustrated above, it is the absolute pits if one is in battle for it leaves one open while reloading.

I severly detest politicians who decide what the risks will be when they are not there to face those risks themselves.

*The other day, I was showing someone my USP. Drop the mag, rack the slide open, ensure it is clear (in this case, the ready round had extracted, fallen to the floor), hand to the person in question. That is the proper way to do things.....and it is what I know like instinct.

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Old 01-27-2023, 01:02 PM
 
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How are those correlated? As far as I know both shooters have zero or very light criminal pasts. Which state would either the 66 year old man or the 72 year old man be in jail and what for? What light on crime policies lead to these shootings?
I’m only going to say this once … making it harder for law abiding citizens to attain firearms, or carry upon their persons never stops bad guys from doing it, but only prevents good guys from stopping the bad ones.

There is nothing more attractive to violent criminals than gun free zones, and unarmed victims.
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Old 01-27-2023, 03:31 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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… making it harder for law abiding citizens to attain firearms, or carry upon their persons never stops bad guys from doing it, but only prevents good guys from stopping the bad ones.
That good guy who wrestled with the bad one for 90 seconds in the Monterey Park shootings didn't even have a gun.

https://time.com/6249944/monterey-pa...-brandon-tsay/
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