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Seems to be the California gays are far more radical than the ones elsewhere.
Everywhere else in the country all I ever hear about is some discontent, peaceful protest and a committment to try again later.
In California, I hear about violent protests, mailing letters containing powder to the churches, lawsuits and trying to undercut the will of the people, screaming, counter bashing and all sorts of other radical and oftentimes violent things.
I think the media is exaggerating just a tad... I live in San Francisco, and there's nothing overtly violent going on here. We've had some peaceful protests & demonstrations around town, and some are planning a walk-out on Wednesday (see my thread from a few minutes ago). But I personally haven't witnessed or heard about violent protest, although I can't speak for what's going on in Los Angeles - if they are doing something radical, our defense is that SF is 400 miles away.
I think the media is exaggerating just a tad... I live in San Francisco, and there's nothing overtly violent going on here. We've had some peaceful protests & demonstrations around town, and some are planning a walk-out on Wednesday (see my thread from a few minutes ago). But I personally haven't witnessed or heard about violent protest, although I can't speak for what's going on in Los Angeles - if they are doing something radical, our defense is that SF is 400 miles away.
Your right. Most of the violent protests I hear about are in LA, there aren't nearly as many in SF.
Your right. Most of the violent protests I hear about are in LA, there aren't nearly as many in SF.
Thing is, if I learned anything from Hurricane Katrina, it's that what the media is telling you probably isn't an accurate representation of what's going on anywhere, and it's difficult to know what's really going on unless you're there.
I'm a heterosexual who WILL keep going on about Prop 8 until it's overturned. Civil rights should not be put up for a vote... there are some parts of this country where interracial marriage would STILL be illegal if that were true. I am embarrassed and ashamed of my fellow Americans.
Thing is, if I learned anything from Hurricane Katrina, it's that what the media is telling you probably isn't an accurate representation of what's going on anywhere, and it's difficult to know what's really going on unless you're there.
Exactly. Plus, people tend to think that all of California is LA and San Francisco... well, it's not. There are plenty of peaceful protests in my area that have not escalated to violence and I think that bumper stickers and yard signs are used more than fists and violence where I live
Yes, it is. In Loving V. Virginia marriage was declared one of the 'basic civil rights of man'.
I don't have a problem with marriage being called a civil right.
It's when it's called a "basic human right" that irritates me. Too many political issues keep using that term. The only "basic human right" is the right to life. Period. Everything else is a civil issue.
I don't have a problem with marriage being called a civil right.
It's when it's called a "basic human right" that irritates me. Too many political issues keep using that term. The only "basic human right" is the right to life. Period. Everything else is a civil issue.
So says you, the arbiter of all rights endowed to all peoples?
Is freedom from slavery also not a human right, but a civil one? The right not to be dismembered or tortured? The right of freedom of religion? If a woman is raped, is the only an infringement on her "civil" right and not her human right to personal autonomy?
Lucky Gem, if the government told you you couldn't get married, you might change your mind.
The government never told anyone they can't get married...the voter's did,by law's their rights.If you want to talk about civil rights being violated,keep letting the appeals court throw out the american voter's vote.
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