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There is another consideration here, in my opinion.
Some pets, including dogs, have had IQ testing - the sort that they give non verbal children.
The animals tested at about the level of a five year old kid.
So, leaving behind or attacking a pet is perceived by many of us as akin to doing the same to a loving 5 year old child.
I think we really should reform our laws regarding the treatment of animals, especially pets.
Periodically trucks are stopped moving from one state to the next and in the back are found lots of
pets, mostly dogs, being transported for voodoo or some similar religion sacrifices. THey like pets because they are more docile. Lab experimenters like pets, as well and animal adoption centers try to be very careful these days that the pets do not fall into the wrong hands.
I remember that there were voodoo (or something like that) worshipers in Florida who were using animals in this way. A law was passed making it illegal to kill animals in religious practices. Religious fundamentalists got the law yanked as a freedom of religion/separation of church and state issue.
Your post is also sooooooo hazy as to be absurd. If you can't find specifics about such things as laws protecting animals over people in assaults and killings, then get to work and find that stuff rather than posting "hazy memories" of "something" that "may have happened".....you are posting about political issues now. Not pet issues.
It's a typical rightwinger comment, they learn it from Hannity "Is California full of terrorist supporters?
I'm not saying they support them, I'm just asking"
They say it 2 more times, and if nobody can prove 100% that it's incorrect
then to them, it is a fact.
It's a typical rightwinger comment, they learn it from Hannity "Is California full of terrorist supporters?
I'm not saying they support them, I'm just asking"
They say it 2 more times, and if nobody can prove 100% that it's incorrect
then to them, it is a fact.
I suppose you believe Hannity would kill your pet if it were friends with a terrorist hawk from California with a broken right wing.
In San Antonio a few years ago, a man shot a 16 year old thief taking off with one of his fighting roosters and got by with it, even though the thief was shot in the back. In Texas, you have a right to protect your property.
If someone was attacking my animals, unless it was provoked such as my dog biting for some reason, I would defend my animals. I would figure that someone trying to hurt an animal for no reason is a threat, crazed out-of-his-mind and/or looking for violence.
Hmmm, I see you've already got your defense planned.
There is another consideration here, in my opinion.
Some pets, including dogs, have had IQ testing - the sort that they give non verbal children.
The animals tested at about the level of a five year old kid.
So, leaving behind or attacking a pet is perceived by many of us as akin to doing the same to a loving 5 year old child.
I think we really should reform our laws regarding the treatment of animals, especially pets.
Periodically trucks are stopped moving from one state to the next and in the back are found lots of
pets, mostly dogs, being transported for voodoo or some similar religion sacrifices. THey like pets because they are more docile. Lab experimenters like pets, as well and animal adoption centers try to be very careful these days that the pets do not fall into the wrong hands.
I remember that there were voodoo (or something like that) worshipers in Florida who were using animals in this way. A law was passed making it illegal to kill animals in religious practices. Religious fundamentalists got the law yanked as a freedom of religion/separation of church and state issue.
I agree with you. IMO, the laws should be much, much tougher regarding harming or mistreating animals.
I've never heard anything about trucks loaded with pets being transported to various places to be used in voodoo or religious practices. However, I am not in the least surprised that you would say there are exotic religious rituals in Florida (especially South Florida, Miami) which involve the killing of animals! Miami is a strange place indeed! I like Miami, however, I don't venture out into the more "exotic" areas of this city or South Florida! And I don't practice voodoo. I lean toward Buddhism. And do no harm.
This has probably been answered completely by this point, but legally, NO.
You do not have a right to take someone's life because they threaten your property(even if it's a pet). In court, that would be like saying "I killed him because he threatened to slash the tires on my hummer." You have a right to protect your property, but the use of deadly force is not a right unless your life or someone else's life is in serious danger. Now, if you woke up in the middle of the night to a man dressed in black, armed, who's obviously broken into your house, and he's killing your dog, you probably have a right to shoot him. Why? Because an armed person who has broken into your house in the middle of the night is most likely a danger to your life. BUT, if someone ran away with your pet, and you shot them in the back, you'd be in trouble.
The basic principal here is: destruction or theft of property does not justify the taking of life.
With that said, if someone started messing with my dogs, I'd be hard pressed not to beat them sensless.
My dog would have no hesitation in giving his life in trying to defend mine.
I would be less than human if I could not honor that bond and do the same for him, the law be damned.
Pets show more loyalty and love than people at times.
They often care for us more than we deserve.
Well, who would take care of your dog while you were in prison or on death row?
I agree with you that often pets do show much more loyalty and love than people.
Yes, depending on the circumstances of course. And it could be legal.
If someone broke onto my property and was threatening me or my property (my pet in this case), in Texas I would have every legal right to shoot the person. I am not sure about other states. I know this because a member of the Sheriff's office advised me to do just that after we had been broken into. His only caveat was to make sure the intruder died on the property. And if he didn't, to drag his body back onto the property before we called the police.
Police can legally kill someone who shoots a police dog - it's considered part of the police force, not just property. And depending on where you live, you can kill someone who is taking your property on your property. Break into my house and my dog will go after you. You are already a threat to both of us, but even if you are only going after my dog, I will kill you.
Could you Kill a Person who Threatened to hurt your pet?
Strange Post to say the least. Killing is wrong no matter what the reason unless that is you are being threatened yourself or someone is threatening the life of your child. Self-Defense is a totally different deal. To kill for a pet....no, that is not justifiable in any state and why pick on California or Massachusetts?
Should someone ever try to harm my pet, of course I would try to stop them somehow but to kill them NO, NO and NO.
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I just read a post by somebody who says he could.
I love my cat dearly. I have spent money on her. I would probably spend a lot of money on her if I had to. I understand how people love their pets dearly. I understand how people humanize their pets.
But she is an animal.
A person is a human being.
No animal is worth the life of a human being.
I wonder if there is case law on this. The only place I could imagine something like this being allowed is California or Massachusetts.
I have a dog and I think he is worth more than lots of humans I know of.
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