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Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by lamexican
If you read them then you would no the answer is on average about HALF of what we pay on private insurance!!
I'm still working my way through the reports as they are lengthy but I would like to hear it from YOU what percent of YOUR annual income do you anticipate that you would pay to fund UHC?
I'm still working my way through the reports as they are lengthy but I would like to hear it from YOU what percent of YOUR annual income do you anticipate that you would pay to fund UHC?
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by lamexican
4 to 5% at max.
If we do wind up going towards UHC then I sincerely hope that 4-5% is all we will have to shell out in taxes... Knowing our government, I'm not going to get my hopes up though ...
If we do wind up going towards UHC then I sincerely hope that 4-5% is all we will have to shell out in taxes... Knowing our government, I'm not going to get my hopes up though ...
And knowing the corporations...? Or, is it that you would rather have corporations run this country?
To the contrary - I have frequently ACKNOWLEDGED the problem. In all honesty, because of my involvement with this group reporting to Congress, I'm perhaps a little more knowledgeable on the issue than you are.
There is a problem. But, as a nation, we do not need to throw the baby out with the bath water.
There are ways to make health insurance more affordable without going to a UHI. There are ways to reduce those without insurance -
But, we have to recognize that we are NOT going to get 100% of Americans covered by insurance. The President has noted this fact numerous times.
We also have to recognize that if you try to FORCE Americans to take one program - to take away their choices - there will be rebellion. Trying to do this is politically bad. It will not happen IMO.
Yes - there is a problem. And, it won't be easy, or fast, to correct it. But, a lot can be done to help
Quite sincerely - it makes me very very worried when people like you - with the callous disregard you have expressed to those with problems affording health insurance in this thread - have ANYTHING to do with setting policy..
If we do wind up going towards UHC then I sincerely hope that 4-5% is all we will have to shell out in taxes... Knowing our government, I'm not going to get my hopes up though ...
Maybe you should calm down and wait for a proposal to be floated by the Obama administration... Then and only then can you read the details and decide if there is anything to be concerned about.
Until then you just sound a lot like Chicken Little.
Thank you for this post - it was extremely informative!!!
I highly recommend that anyone who is concerned about the U.S. health insurance problem read the above article - and follow the links to the 2 detailed reports - there is a wealth of information in them - especially the first link...
That's a point some don't understand - it is possible to "opt out" of social security.
You will not get everyone to agree to a UHI program. It will not happen
Are you going to deny them healthcare?
The ONLY way to opt out of social security is if you are a "minister" or on some religious ground.. We'v ealready covered this. Opting out is NOT as easy as you would like to make it out to be.
And - what do you suggest be done with the underground economy - do you deny them healthcare?
You deny them the healthcare that is afforded to citizens who actually obey the law of their land and contribute to the well being of their country. They are "underground" let them pay it out of their own pocket..if you choose to live in an underground economy it is no better than living as an illegal. They'll get the same treatment as an illegal alien when they walk into a facility..patch up and recieve abill for the care. If they want to be citizens and be treated as such then they need to contribute as a legal citizen would.
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