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Same here in my state except we went further and outlawed civil unions and domestic partnerships.
We have a domestic partnership registry in one city and you don't get any state rights but one homophobic legislature wanted to do away with that...despite the domestic partnerships not being recognized by the state.
I think the first southern state to legalize marriage equality will see a flood of new residents. I'm not holding my breath it will be my state though....
At least in some of these states with marriage defined as a man and a woman, you can at least try for civil unions...I think.
I can't picture ANY southern state ever legalizing marriage equality, can you? Texas voted for the Constitutional ban by ~75-25, Louisiana ~80-20. Does that sound like it would ever happen?
Another state bites the dust,it aint here so i care a little less but i feel sorry for the moral upstanding people who are against this disgusting thing in maine. Hopefully they can kick the scum out who voted for this trash. So much for what the people want anymore.
I can't picture ANY southern state ever legalizing marriage equality, can you? Texas voted for the Constitutional ban by ~75-25, Louisiana ~80-20. Does that sound like it would ever happen?
Even if those states don't do it on their own, they may be forced to at least recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.
I really dont want to argue or debate anything about it tonight....this is a night for celebration....the grass roots organization in the state was tremendous....the leaders in the Senate were phenomenal.....and the public hearing was a triumph.....I am so happy and feel so validated after all the years of insults, threats, isolation, intimidation....I am just overwhelmed with joy and thanksgiving...tomorrow I can begin to battle again.....Tonight......I am thanking my gay brothers and sisters and our friends and family and fair minded people in Maine and across the country. Indeed, "We Shall Overcome!"
I really dont want to argue or debate anything about it tonight....this is a night for celebration....the grass roots organization in the state was tremendous....the leaders in the Senate were phenomenal.....and the public hearing was a triumph.....I am so happy and feel so validated after all the years of insults, threats, isolation, intimidation....I am just overwhelmed with joy and thanksgiving...tomorrow I can begin to battle again.....Tonight......I am thanking my gay brothers and sisters and our friends and family and fair minded people in Maine and across the country. Indeed, "We Shall Overcome!"
amen, enjoy your victory for equality in maine.. from the sounds of it, you all deserve a pat on the back..
It kind of sounds corny and lame of me, but I can't help but get teary eyed about this issue, because I can just imagine the feeling you all feel. I can't wait for it to come to my state.. and every state... it will happen! Props to Maine! you guys rock!
I really dont want to argue or debate anything about it tonight....this is a night for celebration....the grass roots organization in the state was tremendous....the leaders in the Senate were phenomenal.....and the public hearing was a triumph.....I am so happy and feel so validated after all the years of insults, threats, isolation, intimidation....I am just overwhelmed with joy and thanksgiving...tomorrow I can begin to battle again.....Tonight......I am thanking my gay brothers and sisters and our friends and family and fair minded people in Maine and across the country. Indeed, "We Shall Overcome!"
Even though we are currently in the midwest, Elston you know that DH & I are celebrating along with you and all of our gay friends back home.
amen, enjoy your victory for equality in maine.. from the sounds of it, you all deserve a pat on the back..
It kind of sounds corny and lame of me, but I can't help but get teary eyed about this issue, because I can just imagine the feeling you all feel. I can't wait for it to come to my state.. and every state... it will happen! Props to Maine! you guys rock!
As someone who comes from the younger generation, I can promise you that my generation is much more understanding and willing to work our fellow gay and lesbian Americas.
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You mean we only have 45 more states to go before I can stop hearing about gays wanting to have sex?
Ooh, you want to get married, well that problem is marriage is a religious function, and governments should play no role, so instead of protesting your "wish", to get married, maybe you should be protesting the involvement of marriage with government... You'd get further quicker, and people wouldnt get tired of post after post hearing about gay sex and feel they have the need to change constitutions to mean "man and woman"..
Gays wanting to have sex? Really? Is that what you hear? Because I hear about them wanting to LOVE and treated equal.
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But in America, a Christian nation, we adhere to the Christian principles of marriage being the legal union between one man and one woman only. America is not a secular society when more than three-quarters of the population believes in and-or worships God.
There is no dictatorship, only majority rule.
Other nations and sub-cultures may be free to define marriage any absurd way they so choose; but the tradtional institution of marriage in the sense of a man and a woman joining in a union is the only proven method that is effective and healthy.
Not a Christian nation. Not at all. And traditional marriage did once include multiple wives. You cool with that?
How was it proven that a man and woman joining in union is the healthy one? I mean how many divorces are there? How much abuse goes on?
Majority rules is a lie. The majority cannot take away the right of a minority. No way, no how.
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Originally Posted by Bluefly
Umm...
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson
You've been duped if you believe we live in a Christian nation.
The founding fathers fought very hard to keep the religious extremists at bay when they were forming our government. It was founded specifically to liberate us from any state religion, a model that had crushed Europe and spurred the demand for a new nation free of religious control.
As such, we most certainly live in a secular nation and the beliefs of one religious group, while having a right to free expression, cannot impinge upon the rights of other groups. In this case, marriage equality is the only reasonable solution for a free society.
The simple fact that people from Christian countries were the second to immigrate here or make up a majority today is irrelevant to the founding mission of our nation.
Yes. We are a secular nation. NOT a Christian a nation. The Founding Fathers were very smart for their time and knew not to make Christianity official. God knows how much trouble we would have been in if they declared this a Christian country.
I dont even want to think about it.
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Just because they are Christian doesn't mean they aren't for marriage equality.
What does someone else's beliefs have to do with the laws that govern my life?
If you want to live by christian beliefs...that's fine but when you try to enforce your religious beliefs on everyone else...that's when we have a problem.
Exactly. Same here. I am not saying Churches will have to marry same sex gender. I am not saying that you have to change your belief for gays and lesbians. You are welcome to protest all you want but remember that religion is a BELIEF. Your BELIEF should not affect other people at all.
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The bible also speaks lowly of those who judge others.
Those who have opposing viewpoints are not hurt when marriage equality is the law but when those who oppose marriage equality impose their beliefs on others, they do hurt others. There is a difference.
When marriage equality becomes legal in all 50 states, no one will be hurt as a result. Religious believers can keep believing what they want and their place of worship will not be required by the state to perform same-sex unions.
Yes. Very true. I liked this post a lot.
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How could I have a problem with them? I don't even know them.
I am still opposed to the concept, however. As a relief to you, my one viewpoint will not be enacted into law.
Thank God because your kind of viewpoints would take us back to prehistoric days and make us look even worse in the eyes of the world. Thank GOD!
If your viewpoints were ever enacted, people would laugh and shout when we go around screaming we want to give Iraqis freedom and that we are a free country when we cannot even let different races marry each other or gays.
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Majority rule while not trampling upon minority rights.
Therefore, if a law that is passed is ruled unconstitutional, it can be repealed.
Voting is never the final answer, nor should it be.
Yes! Agreed with you, my friend!
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yikes so far all I have gathered from you is that you are opposed to the "mixing of the races" and gays getting married. Are you stuck in the 1950s?
Prehistoric.
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And if, God forbid, it was declared that ONLY same sex marriage would be allowed, would you be able to 'become ' homosexual and marry someone of the same sex? Ridiculous you say? No more ridiculous than your proclamation above. And from earliest childhood I have always understood marriage to be defined as the lifelong joining of two adults who wished to spend their lives together.
Exactly. I noticed your status shows you believe in God and are a Christian. Thank you so much for understanding the lives of others anot pushing your belief on to other people. You are a true American!
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They might as well outlaw Christianity and shut down churches. Some places have already banned the display of the three wise men, baby Jesus, or even the saying of Merry Christmas. Children cannot openly pray in public school. Any kind of religious symbols or worship are forbidden in many workplaces.
But liberal progressive types that claim to be for equal treatment do not seem to have a problem with the above.
Jesus. Where does this come out of? Seriously? This is about giving gays their right to marry.
And also, if this was a Christian Country, would all of that be banned?
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Another state bites the dust,it aint here so i care a little less but i feel sorry for the moral upstanding people who are against this disgusting thing in maine. Hopefully they can kick the scum out who voted for this trash. So much for what the people want anymore.
The only scum I see are people like you who deny other fellow Americans their rights.
Another state bites the dust,it aint here so i care a little less but i feel sorry for the moral upstanding people who are against this disgusting thing in maine. Hopefully they can kick the scum out who voted for this trash. So much for what the people want anymore.
Does this mean gays won't be accepted by the National Socialist Party?
Do i care or not? NO! I could care less what your opinion is. These people are disgusting, you know to think about it it makes great sense so far that's maine,massachusets,connecticut and i believe either new hampshire or vermont that have legalized this disgusting practice. Why not just let them create there own ***** state? I mean since they want it so badly let them have it. That would be awesome!
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