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Then the other side of the question applies: Why is it OK to take that life as long as we ensure that it is done "rarely" ?
We have to be realistic and understand that as much as we'd prefer to live in Fairyland, they're going to happen, legally or illegally. Someone will always be looking to get one and someone else will always be there to offer one. Making it illegal or pricing it out of the reach of poor women or making it available only in a state or two doesnt make it go away IOW.
You seem to want the scenario to be "never" instead of "rare." Nice as that would be, it's impractical and asking for tales of grotesque disaster. Never mind the women (); if you dont like the thought of third-trimester ABs now, just wait until AB goes underground.
Originally Posted by irishvanguard Abortion has been taboo or illegal for all of human history, and only legal for the last 35 years. Do not pretend that "there's no way of arguing against it". What is absurd is you can arrogantly make those assertions, when you have no right."""
Nope, I just read a book about the Irish and English in the 7th century....they had methods they used openly to cause an abortion. They were very open minded back then and if a woman didn't want a baby they didn't punish her.
My post was not about suicide success. Of course the police cannot be everywhere. If someone goes up on a bridge and threatens to jump, will the police try to stop them or not? If everyone has the right to do whatever they want with their body, why should the police try to stop suicide?
There are other laws that affect what you can and cannot do with your own body:
- Inject heroin into it
- Sell a kidney
- Prostitution
It is a myth that we can all do whatever we want with our own bodies...
perhaps a history course is in order before you make such claims....
the law does not advocate abortion.. it grants choice to make your own decision... you conservatives that hate government involvement should understand this principle.. oh wait.. when it's an issue you want to shove down everyone's throats.. you are all about bigger government and tighter regulation on everyone's personal lives.. gotcha!
Conservatives will get involved in personal lives when the life is at stake. For example, we favor preventing homicide and prosecuting those that commit homicide. In the case of abortion, the key factor is whether you believe that the unborn child (fetus) is a life distinct from the mother. If you do, abortion should be illegal unless the life of the mother is in jeopardy. If the fetus is not a distinct life, then abortion should be legal until birth. To me, the DNA proves that the fetus is a distinct life.
fact of the matter is.. a fetus is an extension of the mother's body until it is born.. there's no way of arguing against it..
Check the fetus's DNA. Is it the same as the mother? Her appendix's DNA is the same. The fetus has its own DNA. To me that is enought to prove that the fetus is a distinct life, not an extension of the mother's body...
We have to be realistic and understand that as much as we'd prefer to live in Fairyland, they're going to happen, legally or illegally. Someone will always be looking to get one and someone else will always be there to offer one. Making it illegal or pricing it out of the reach of poor women or making it available only in a state or two doesnt make it go away IOW.
You seem to want the scenario to be "never" instead of "rare." Nice as that would be, it's impractical and asking for tales of grotesque disaster. Never mind the women (); if you dont like the thought of third-trimester ABs now, just wait until AB goes underground.
Murder/homicide will also occur. We cannot prevent it so that it "never" happens. Should it then be made legal everywhere and we hope that it will be "rare"?
Check the fetus's DNA. Is it the same as the mother? Her appendix's DNA is the same. The fetus has its own DNA. To me that is enought to prove that the fetus is a distinct life, not an extension of the mother's body...
Abortion has been taboo or illegal for all of human history, and only legal for the last 35 years. Do not pretend that "there's no way of arguing against it". What is absurd is you can arrogantly make those assertions, when you have no right.
Really? Got a link to anything that might prove that?
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); if you dont like the thought of third-trimester ABs now, just wait until AB goes underground.
