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His job is to do what is right for the country and not for a few people that wish to own Hummers and monster SUVs.
And who is the country made out of? People who don't need him to make their every day decisions. What ever happened to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? We are not a socials state.
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So if "He" decided that video games were harmful to society as a whole, you'd be ok with them being outlawed? What about fatty foods? Books?
Very slippery slope, Kev. Some of us value our freedoms, and aren't willing to give carte blanche control of our lives over to any politician, regardless of how much we like them or how good they look on TV.
Fatty foods should be TAXED to help pay for his heathcare plan as should sugary drinks and other unhealthy food. As for books and video games they do not harm anything and they are covered by the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Constitution is where rights and freedoms come from and driving a Hummer is not among those listed.
There is no question about huge SUVs and monster trucks harming the country by polluting the air and making us more beholden and dependent on the religious nutcases in Saudi Arabia. I don't like it when a US President has to go over and bow to a king or hold his hand just so we can keep the oil flowing. I am glad we have a leader that seems intent on stopping it.
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And who is the country made out of? People who don't need him to make their every day decisions. What ever happened to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? We are not a socials state.
He is not making a decision for you. You can still choose from among dozens of car models what you wish to drive. You still have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit is happiness as long as your pursuit of happiness does not have negative effects on the lives and well being of your fellow citizens. When it does, the government can and should limit your rights.
You should really do some research and a little thinking before starting posts... China of all places has higher fuel standards than the US and they are doing it with conventional gasoline vehicles. If you don't set the goal, there will be no incentive to improve. As for safety, your point is that everyone should drive a Hummer? Odd reasoning... and how does that fit in with the goal of not being dependent on foreign oil... or does that not matter since the oil fairy is an American?
Have they started installing air bags on bicycles?
No, not good for Obama. I don't think you realize we had freedoms in this country and no government official used to tell the people what is right for them. Isn’t that the reason why we broke away from England in 1776?
Fixed it for you.
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Well, looks like after 20-plus posts, no one has yet come up with any solution to the less-oil-more-deaths conundrum, besides namecalling and imaginary vehicles that don't exist.
Would anybody like to try justifying the tradeoff of blood for oil?
I think King Bin Obama is arrogant to think we as tax payers and consumers have to listen to his tripe. I think his ideas of equality are every one being poor. Can any one say one term president?
His job is to do what is right for the country and not for a few people that wish to own Hummers and monster SUVs.
Correct in part. And what is right for the country, is freedom. The freedom to make our own decisions aboutr what to buy and drive. The freedom to decide for ourselves if and when we will change our lifestyles for theoretical concerns about environment.
Even if you don't happen to like the decisions a few of them (like, say, SUV drivers) choose to make.
Car engines and transmissions are already about as efficient as they can get, for running on gasoline. So, the only way you can increase the gas mileage of cars, is by using hybrid technology (doubling the price of cars), different fuels (which Barry isn't doing here)... or making the cars smaller and lighter.
And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
By mandating higher gas mileage by legislative fiat, Obama is directly ordering the deaths of hundreds or thousands more Americans. And he is doing simply for the purpose of saving gas. He has made the decision that the oil saved, is worth the additional deaths and injuries his decision will cause. He is, quite literally, trading blood for oil.
When can we expect the "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" hysterics who kept attending protests of the Gulf Wars, to show up outside the White House with their big signs, mindless chants, and stained bongs in response to this latest decision?
Obama to Detail New Car Fuel Standards Tuesday, Reports Say
by WSJ Staff
May 18, 2009, 1:24 PM ET
New U.S. fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles are to be announced Tuesday by President Barack Obama, various news Web sites reported Monday. In part, the Obama administration will direct the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to jointly set limits on tailpipe emissions, the Detroit News reported. Politico.com also reported news of the pending announcement, saying the new Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, standards will be promoted by the White House as historic because they’re meant to avoid a patchwork of standards in different states.
You need to give a link to the ridiculous first thing you quoted, not just pretend the whole thing is from the poor old wsj.
Dont be ashamed of your source!
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