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Old 05-19-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I ask, again, what is your alternative method for dealing with terrorists?
To stop terrorizing other people ourselves would be a good start.

 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I adhere to the Biblical scriptures, and they correctly promote retaliation in such cases as murder and torture.

Who cares if they are not military? Who cares if they are civilians? They are still criminals, end of story.

Why shouldn't they be subject to revenge or torture? What do you propose doing, tapping their hands and kissing their cheeks?

Being they are not American citizens and are terrorists that have plotted to kill people and-or destroy structures, I certainly do not want them to be granted Constitutional rights under our justice system and have them over here in the United States.
Yikes- your slogan is "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." If you are going to follow the New Testament- the "nation whose God is Lord" would be followers of JESUS. Jesus never advocated torture or physical revenge. If I remember right- wasn't there was something about turning the other cheek? Something about "if your enemy takes your cloak, give him your coat, also"?
Sometimes people want revenge. That is a human emotion--not a Godly one (in a civilized society).
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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Who cares if they are not military? Who cares if they are civilians? They are still criminals, end of story.
You are so far off your rocker you can't even see your way back to reality. I feel sorry for you, you've got to be one of the biggest fundamentalists that I've read on this forum, you've got absolutely no sense of logic whatsoever. Tell me, what's it like? You know, to be such a nut that you actually condone the killing of innocent civilians? You DO realize that makes you on the same level as the terrorists of 9/11, right? I'm assuming you don't even see the absurdness of your "thought" process.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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To stop terrorizing other people ourselves would be a good start.
No kidding.

I'm sure events like this just do wonders for draining the pool of support for violence against Americans:

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An Afghan investigation has concluded that at least 140 civilians died in US air raids on villages in Farah province last week, the defence ministry has said.

The official announcement on Saturday came a day after the investigative team, headed by an Afghan army general, had presented their findings to Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan's president.
Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - US raid 'killed 140 Afghans'

They hate us for our FREEDOM!! Whoot Whoot! USA USA USA. etc.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This conservative firmly belives that torture is "horrible."

Nice attempt at making everything a liberal vs. conservative issue, though.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I must ask why these interrogation procedures including waterboarding and other techniques are considered so inhumane by the left-wing pansy crowd. Does anybody not realize that our own soldiers suffer extensively worse treatment by terrorists and dictatorships in foreign countries?
Because they are below the level of decency and humanity that has always set the US apart from the crowd, WE set our standards, NOT some scumbags who know no better. WHY are the NeoConfused so willing to throw away the very essence of America?



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What exactly is wrong with torturing terrorists? The terrorists' actions are torturous when they bomb buildings, bridges, airplanes, and ships, and then take our hostages who they torture without any holds barred. What is so terrible about giving a very small amount of their own medicine back to them? What is so morbidly wrong with revenge?

Revenge is healthy, natural, and good for the soul. Revenge keeps our borders and armed forces safe and secure. After all, would you rather be fighting and dealing with the terrorists on our soil or theirs?
Revenge is going after those who actually attacked you, NOT invading a country that didn't, and NOT torturing those charged with nothing, and NOT lowering our standards to those of our attackers.

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It will not be long before the United States is tested again with another terrorist plot. It may not be another September 11 type of attack, it may be more subtle. With B.O., Biden, Billary, Pelosi, Reid, Napolitano, and other leftists at the helm I really fear for this country's ability to ward off terrorism and deal with it swiftly and quickly.
Why? Because you buy into the baseless fear-mongering of the NeoConfused?
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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This conservative firmly belives that torture is "horrible."

Nice attempt at making everything a liberal vs. conservative issue, though.
agreed. I have conservative views and liberal views on things. I hate the label that you have to be one or the other. Yesterday I was going on about how I hate unions, not really the socialist libby that I am suppose to be.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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Nancy Pelosi and her ilk are completely out of line on the waterboarding and so-called torture controversy.

Closing Gitmo was a huge mistake on the part of B.O. Pelosi is adding fuel to the fire by picking fights with the CIA over the interrogation issue, not realizing that she was briefed on the same techniques and didn't seem to have any problem with it at the time.

I must ask why these interrogation procedures including waterboarding and other techniques are considered so inhumane by the left-wing pansy crowd. Does anybody not realize that our own soldiers suffer extensively worse treatment by terrorists and dictatorships in foreign countries?

What exactly is wrong with torturing terrorists? The terrorists' actions are torturous when they bomb buildings, bridges, airplanes, and ships, and then take our hostages who they torture without any holds barred. What is so terrible about giving a very small amount of their own medicine back to them? What is so morbidly wrong with revenge?

Revenge is healthy, natural, and good for the soul. Revenge keeps our borders and armed forces safe and secure. After all, would you rather be fighting and dealing with the terrorists on our soil or theirs?

It will not be long before the United States is tested again with another terrorist plot. It may not be another September 11 type of attack, it may be more subtle. With B.O., Biden, Billary, Pelosi, Reid, Napolitano, and other leftists at the helm I really fear for this country's ability to ward off terrorism and deal with it swiftly and quickly.

The majority of terrorists are rag-headed Islamics who despise the United States of America and everything we stand for. Their eventual goal is to torture and kill all of us, so what is wrong with seeking retaliation by torturing and killing them?
Jesus does love you, even though you've strayed so far away from His path.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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How is it hypocritical?

I correctly quoted the Biblical scriptures that promote retaliation. You are a self-claimed atheist; so therefore you are the one that is blinded. You walk in darkness and will never be saved if you continue on the wrong path.

May you and the Lord someday, somehow, find each other.

God bless you.
Why did you pick those scriptures?

Aren't there scriptures that counsel you to turn the other cheek? To be merciful and just. And is retaliation necessarily torture? Torture isn't committed against an equal. Torture is done to persons who are at your mercy. However much they might hate you, they are at your mercy. They are stripped of their defenses and you inflict upon this defenseless person pain and suffering. You deliberately hurt another person who cannot stop you. And hurt them again and again, even while they plead with you to stop.

If you can do this, then truly, I hope that someday may the Lord find you.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: America's heartland
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You are so far off your rocker you can't even see your way back to reality. I feel sorry for you, you've got to be one of the biggest fundamentalists that I've read on this forum, you've got absolutely no sense of logic whatsoever. Tell me, what's it like? You know, to be such a nut that you actually condone the killing of innocent civilians? You DO realize that makes you on the same level as the terrorists of 9/11, right? I'm assuming you don't even see the absurdness of your "thought" process.
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Psalms 1:1-6
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