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Old 06-05-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Bush Defends Assertions of Iraq-Al Qaeda Relationship (washingtonpost.com)

There most certainly was a relationship between the two. It is well documented that the parties had contact. The SI report says the same, although there was no operational link.

CNN.com - Bush stands by al Qaeda, Saddam link - Jun 15, 2004

Yes, Zarqawi was in Iraq. Irrefutable.
Contact yes? Only one meeting and Hussein refused Bin Laden's request to set up training camps if I recall...
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Bush and Cheney making the claim of 9/11 + Hussein and al Qaeda
No. Making the claim that after 9/11, Iraq was too dangerous a threat to the US to ignore any longer.

Does anybody remember the mentality of the nation in the days/weeks following 9/11?
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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After the horror of 9/11, the possibility of an Iraq with WMD and the incentive to hand them off to terrorists, as well as the intolerable idea of a nuclear reconstituted Iraq could not stand. He had WMD, he used WMD, the inspectors were there looking for WMD, the world thought he had WMD. Just too much of a chance to take.

Besides, he was in violation of 17 UN resolutions from the Gulf War - just that alone technically justified an invasion.
Maybe, but we invaded without the UN. And we did it because we wanted too, not because there was any real threat. They knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, but they lied to us anyway. Because they wanted their war. The inspectors stated that there were no WMD's. We totally disarmed them after the first Gulf War. The inspectors being there shouldn't have been reason to invade. That is the time when you let the men do their work. And then when they give their results, we go in anyway.

The world did not believe the lie, the world was against the invasion, the world knew the truth. We were the ones that got duped. Saddam Hussien was a tyrant and he deserved to be removed. But putting the Iraqi people through the hell of an American invasion was not necessary to do this. We simply wanted to get a solid foothold in the Middle East. And where better to start than one of the largest oil producing countries in the world. If we simply wanted to remove Hussien and insert a new leader, we could have done that in an overnight coup-style takeover. But the people of Iraq were never really the main concern of our leaders. And that is the reason we invaded, conquered, and reshaped their country to look like a little Middle Eastern America. What better way to destroy a culture than to take it over and change it entirely.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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They can't show you a link saying Iraq was involved in 9/11 because it doesn't exist. All they show are links that say there was no connection between Al Queda and Iraq. This is contradicted by many including George Tennent. But you know the old saying if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes fact.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:51 PM
 
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Bush Defends Assertions of Iraq-Al Qaeda Relationship (washingtonpost.com)

There most certainly was a relationship between the two. It is well documented that the parties had contact. The SI report says the same, although there was no operational link.

CNN.com - Bush stands by al Qaeda, Saddam link - Jun 15, 2004

Yes, Zarqawi was in Iraq. Irrefutable.
Zarqawi arrived in Iraq after we had launched an unjustifable assault on Iraq. As a matter of fact Zarqawi arrived in Iraq several years later... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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They knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, but they lied to us anyway.
The world knew there was no WMD? Because that is what you would have to believe since the world's intelligence agencies most certainly thought he had WMD.

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The inspectors stated that there were no WMD's. We totally disarmed them after the first Gulf War. The inspectors being there shouldn't have been reason to invade. That is the time when you let the men do their work. And then when they give their results, we go in anyway.
The inspectors did not state that.

Just answer this very simple question; WHAT were those inspectors looking for? If they were so sure he didn't have WMD, why were they out there, day after day, going to various military facilities, peeking into every nook and crannie, begging for more time to find the WMD? WHAT were they doing?
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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Bush Defends Assertions of Iraq-Al Qaeda Relationship (washingtonpost.com)

There most certainly was a relationship between the two. It is well documented that the parties had contact. The SI report says the same, although there was no operational link.

CNN.com - Bush stands by al Qaeda, Saddam link - Jun 15, 2004

Yes, Zarqawi was in Iraq. Irrefutable.

Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed (washingtonpost.com)



No "collaboration" - "contact" yes.

This links are all basically the same story.

I don't recall Bush or Cheney claiming Saddam had a direct part in 9/11. They have always said AQ had contact with him, which was true.
Ummm, maybe now would be a good time to mention the fact that the Bush clan has direct ties to the Bin Laden family. Does that mean we can assume that Bush and family were also conspirators?
Heck, they even bailed Bush out of one of his several failed business attempts. Must be pretty good buds.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Just answer this very simple question; WHAT were those inspectors looking for? If they were so sure he didn't have WMD, why were they out there, day after day, going to various military facilities, peeking into every nook and crannie, begging for more time to find the WMD? WHAT were they doing?
Their job. And they didn't find anything.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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Just answer this very simple question; WHAT were those inspectors looking for? If they were so sure he didn't have WMD, why were they out there, day after day, going to various military facilities, peeking into every nook and crannie, begging for more time to find the WMD? WHAT were they doing?
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Ummm, maybe now would be a good time to mention the fact that the Bush clan has direct ties to the Bin Laden family. Does that mean we can assume that Bush and family were also conspirators?
Heck, they even bailed Bush out of one of his several failed business attempts. Must be pretty good buds.
Well, yeah. That's why the Bush adminstration ignored the intelligence on bin Laden's plans to attack the US....they were a part of it!!1!1!
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