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There is no Reagan worship, at least not from me. If some of you folks would look into his life and his true intentions not one of you would think he wasn't 100% for world peace and individual freedom. That's something almost all people can agree sounds great and would be an ideal utopia. W may never get there but people like Ronald Reagan devoted his entire life to that from when he was younger and became a lifeguard all the way through his career as an actor, radio host, governor and eventually President of the United States of America. The Reason why Reagan had the largest electoral land side in our history is people already knew him old and young. The opposition literally had nothing to smear him with because of the fact that almost his entire life was open to the public from a young boy till his death. Although after the presidency he was content with just going back to the ranch to spend the rest of his years with Nancy. They resorted to slanderous names instead of substantial claims. You still see those same type of people today. Raygun and duntz tend to come to mind....
why did he support apartheid then a system no different to what was happening to blacks during the civil rights era all while we was fighting for other peoples freedom in other countries, reagan also was a democrat before he turned republican when he left the democrat party he said "i didnt leave the democrat party the democrat party left me", wonders what that means lol i do.
why did he support apartheid then a system no different to what was happening to blacks during the civil rights era all while we was fighting for other peoples freedom in other countries, reagan also was a democrat before he turned republican when he left the democrat party he said "i didnt leave the democrat party the democrat party left me", wonders what that means lol i do.
He's told you in 1000 different ways if you actually wanted to know.
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Last February 19th at the University of Minnesota, Norman Thomas, six-times candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said, "If Barry Goldwater became President, he would stop the advance of socialism in the United States." I think that's exactly what he will do.
But as a former Democrat, I can tell you Norman Thomas isn't the only man who has drawn this parallel to socialism with the present administration, because back in 1936, Mr. Democrat himself, Al Smith, the great American, came before the American people and charged that the leadership of his Party was taking the Party of Jefferson, Jackson, and Cleveland down the road under the banners of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. And he walked away from his Party, and he never returned til the day he died -- because to this day, the leadership of that Party has been taking that Party, that honorable Party, down the road in the image of the labor Socialist Party of England.
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
So now we have our demagogue that, in the name of liberalism, is taking us back down the waving the flags of Marx, Lenin and Stalin and some of you folks either love it or just don't have a clue. When every cabinet position has a czar running it bypassing our checks and balances even then you folks will still deny. You can disregard your "he's racist" BS. He and his mom would regularly feed the poor black kids by bringing them into their home in the town he grew up in Illinois.
In this vote-harvesting time, they use terms like the "Great Society," or as we were told a few days ago by the President, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. But they've been a little more explicit in the past and among themselves; and all of the things I now will quote have appeared in print. These are not Republican accusations. For example, they have voices that say, "The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fulbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."
Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy.
Just because I know some folks would never read anything he wrote but are more than willing to slander him without even a hint or want to actually understand him. Admittedly he wasn't an easy character to figure out. Everyone loved him and he had virtually no close friends at all. Nancy was his sole mate and best and only real friend.
I kind of thought it was funny when he first ran against Ford in the primary but as a President Reagan was probably one of the most effective. I didn't agree with him on anything he did- very little of it anyway- but he was dealing with a Democratic Congress and Senate and still managed to get what he wanted out of them. Carter was a Democrat and could not get anything out of his own Congress.
As much as I disagree with the repugs they always manage to get what they want b/c they stick together....right or wrong. The Dumbocrats can't agree on squat and can't get anything done either
As much as I disagree with the repugs they always manage to get what they want b/c they stick together....right or wrong. The Dumbocrats can't agree on squat and can't get anything done either
What was it that Will Rogers said.... something like "I don't belong to an organized party, I'm a Democrat!"
Reagan was one of the few presidents who was a true Freedom Fighter!
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Notice the quotes, it wasn't me that said it but a guy I met on the course yesterday. He's a lifelong R (he said and I believe him) who went into shock during the Republican primaries last year and is only now coming out of it. Claimed that he decided to investigate 3rd party candidates the day that McCain picke Palin for VP but ended up holding his nose and voting for McCain. But didn't donate a dollar or help at the local R offices.
Like me he's old enough to remember when Reagan came in and hates what the "Reagan legacy project" has been up to since its inception. I actually thought that all Rs were fans and supporters of it, but he claims he isn't. For those of you who don't know what it is it's basically a project dreamt up by (can't recall the guy's name) the d'bag that is always running around saying he wants to shrink government and then drown it in a bathtub, with help from the usual suspects; Frank Luntz, Daneesh D'sousa etc.
Their (supposed) goal is to get something, anything renamed to honor Reagan in every county and city in the country. Their real goal is to rewrite history and turn everyone's opinion to "Reagan was the greatest P who ever lived", by distorting his record. This one seems to be working much better because there's only a couple of thousand building, bridges, sewage plants and other stuff with Reagan's name, but there are millions of loyalists who listen every time Hannity and others spout the crap that "Reagan won the cold war, he created more jobs with his tax cuts, he shrank government, blah, blah blah.
It was great listening to a thinking Republican instead of reading the same old, same old coming from the righties on here. Great guy, bit of a sandbagger though, he won $5 off of me.
golfgod
Reagan truly loved the USA and was more concerned about his country than shoving government run programs, created by sleazy politicians, down peoples throats!
He wanted the government out of peoples lives and tried his best with a left wing congress to prevent the fungal growth of left wing government. He hated communism and sadly that is what we have now! Obama is a true communist and so are all his cronies. If you support him then I believe you must like communism. Obama hates this country and especially the white slave owners who drew up our constitution.
The "great emacipator" my asset! I don't care what he did or did not do in his political life but you all cannot argue this fact: The greatest plight in america started and thrived during his watch and is debatable that his policies (contra/guns/drugs) had a great deal to do with it. The cost and control of COCAINE flourished during his time which opened the door for the creation of crack cocaine. Which in my opinion is the worst thing that has happened in this century next to AIDs which by the way also happened and flourished during his tenure. While he and his wife were just "saying NO" he opened the door with shady dealings in South America flooding California with cocaine. Which was followed by increased gang warfare, illegal guns, increase in violent crimes, crack babies, broken homes, dysfunctional families whose children are a large portion of the prison system not to mention the cuts in social programs that kept the downtrodden down. How do I feel about regan? Truck him and his trickle down THEORY!
Well then that Crack Cocaine must have made your current president happy!
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The "great emacipator" my asset! I don't care what he did or did not do in his political life but you all cannot argue this fact: The greatest plight in america started and thrived during his watch and is debatable that his policies (contra/guns/drugs) had a great deal to do with it. The cost and control of COCAINE flourished during his time which opened the door for the creation of crack cocaine. Which in my opinion is the worst thing that has happened in this century next to AIDs which by the way also happened and flourished during his tenure. While he and his wife were just "saying NO" he opened the door with shady dealings in South America flooding California with cocaine. Which was followed by increased gang warfare, illegal guns, increase in violent crimes, crack babies, broken homes, dysfunctional families whose children are a large portion of the prison system not to mention the cuts in social programs that kept the downtrodden down. How do I feel about regan? Truck him and his trickle down THEORY!
Well!!!!
By the time Reagan left office their were no more communists in Central America, Our Economy was Thriving, The Berlin Wall was torn down, Communism was on its way out, Kadafi was silenced, gasoline prices came down from the Carter Years, Interest Rates came down from the Carter/Obama Years, Unemployment went down, Health Care Costs were lower. Reagan also gave the go for the Supercollider partical Accelerator in Texas which slick Willie later killed so to receive money for his reelection campaign from the People Liberation Army of China!
COme on, you probably learned to hate Republicans because your parents are still angrey over Joe Mecarthy and his hearings!
Truthfully People this country NEEDS a real third party, this crap that we have has got to go. Repubs help the rich get richer and the Dumbocrats enable the poor to be happy being poor. So people tell me please how can a congressman or woman who is ALWAYS educated and well off (150,000 yr or better) relate to someone who is uneducated and living from paycheck to paycheck? Do you really believe that people like reagan, clinton and especially our brillant past president who manged to get into a Ivy league school with a "C" average really give a damn about you? People understand, politicians are just people in power that look at their own best interest just like anyone else, except that their choices affect everyone else. I also believe that most of them may have went into politics b/c in their hearts they want to try to change things for the better (Carter, Obama) and there are others that want to change the government to be inline to what they believe in (Reagan). There are some that are there for more sinister reasons and really don't give a damn about anyone but their party (Nixon) and there are some that are put in the position so that they can be told what to do and have no business in politics not mention the White House (Bush Jr) WAKE UP PEOPLE! quit making excuses for failed policies and stupidity made by excuses that we called presidents!
I know many of you did not like Carter, but he was a moral man and " moral man cannot run an immoral country"
By the time Reagan left office their were no more communists in Central America, Our Economy was Thriving, The Berlin Wall was torn down, Communism was on its way out, Kadafi was silenced, gasoline prices came down from the Carter Years, Interest Rates came down from the Carter/Obama Years, Unemployment went down, Health Care Costs were lower. Reagan also gave the go for the Supercollider partical Accelerator in Texas which slick Willie later killed so to receive money for his reelection campaign from the People Liberation Army of China!
COme on, you probably learned to hate Republicans because your parents are still angrey over Joe Mecarthy and his hearings!
Truthfully I really don't give a damn about none of that crap, what I see now is the distruction from AIDs and the drug probelm destroying this country. How does the fall of the Berlin wall affect you now as oppose to the once crack addicted child who was left to fend for himself and is about to rob/murder you to feed his habit I also see the racial/proverty divide become greater and in the last 8 years. I have also lost friends to a war that was started by politicans who profited off of their blood get richer. At this point I really don't want to hear abstract theories of communism, socialism or any other bs isms! I want to see this country take care of it's own and become what it was meant to be .....The GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
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Reagan was one of the few presidents who was a true Freedom Fighter!
I also see the racial/proverty divide become greater and in the last 8 years. I have also lost friends to a war that was started by politicans who profited off of their blood get richer. At this point I really don't want to hear abstract theories of communism, socialism or any other bs isms! I want to see this country take care of it's own and become what it was meant to be .....The GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
