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We have a few days left to over turn this Bill.
Do we really want to bankrupt the USA????
Also do you want to wait 6-12 months to see a doctor
if your in pain????
Our current system is near perfect, so why try to fix
something that is not broken!
Yeah, it's near perfect all right...........if you have the money to be able to get insurance. More and more people are losing jobs, and as a result more and more people don't have insurance. What are they supposed to do if they are in pain?
The same old arguments, the same old fear-mongering - has been going on for decades by the liberals in order to get their "foot in the door" on the road to socialized medicine.
Listen - and hear what this man said 30+ years ago come to fruition today under obama and the dems/libs.
The same old arguments, the same old fear-mongering - has been going on for decades by the liberals in order to get their "foot in the door" on the road to socialized medicine.
Listen - and hear what this man said 30+ years ago come to fruition today under obama and the dems/libs.
Damn, we need Ronald Reagan right now.
He could fix this liberal mess like he did the liberal mess under Carter and of course lib controlled congress then.
Obama is a total fraud, anything he does is a scam.
Canada has a better system than the United States. The WHO did a study evaluating every country's health care system and its overall performance; Canada ranked #31 and the US ranked #37. By the way, this study was done in 2000 when we only had 38 million uninsured. Due to the fact that Bush spent 8 years in the White House and did nothing about health care other than take insurance companies' donations, we now have 47 million uninsured and another 25 million underinsured.
The majority of people are satisfied with Canadian health care and the overwhelming majority prefer the Canadian system to our system.
Canadians were asked if “overall the Canadian health care system was performing very well, fairly well, not very well or not at all?” The reported results were broken down by province, political affiliation, sex, age and income. Overall the results were as follows: Working very well 12% Working well 58% Not working well 19% Not working at all 9% There was strong support for the system working well or very well throughout most regions of the country. Only the residents of Quebec reported numbers different than the rest of the country. 52% of residents of Quebec said the system worked well; 43% said the system did not work well. When asked “Would you say that Canada’s health system is superior to the US system?” an overwhelming majority preferred the Canadian system to the U.S. model. Prefer Canadian system 82% Prefer American system 8%
If a Canadian goes outside of the country to get services that are deemed medically necessary, not experimental, and are not available at home for whatever reason (e.g., shortage or absence of high tech medical equipment; a longer wait for service than is medically prudent; or lack of physician expertise), the provincial government where you live fully funds your care. Those patients who do come to the U.S. for care and pay out of pocket are those who perceive their care to be more urgent than it likely is.
Wow, the Canadian government picks up the tab for its citizens to get treated in our hospitals, while many of the Americans getting treated in the same hospitals have to pay an arm and a leg for their treatment! wow, your right, this UHC health care crap really sucks.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...2252325.column
Here's a story about a lady that was involved in a serious accident in Canada. The Canadian govermnet fully covered her hospitalization for the accident, which resulted in some serious head injuries. She then moved to the US and, due to the injuries that she sustained in the accident, she can't get health insurance here. Gee, I'd hate to have to live in communist Canada and deal with their horrible system.
Wait times aren't as bad as the insurance industry would like you to believe either.
In 2005, the median waiting time was about 4 weeks for specialist visits, 4 weeks for non-emergency surgery, and 3 weeks for diagnostic tests. (Table 4, Table 5, Table 6)
So much for the infamous 6 month wait for surgery that the right wing propagandists always criticize Canada for.
Oh, by the way, Obama isn't trying to copy Canada's system either. Here is an analysis of the reform that Obama is trying to pass and how it would fix the current situation in the United States. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/me...L_06022009.pdf
It sin't just them. Americans show up there with minor burns, minor cuts, sprains and all when their kids have bloody noses. Sometimes they even call 911 because their kid fell off his bike and skinned his knee. And we should treat them just like Canada treats them- make them sit and wait for hours until they get tired of it, figure out that it ain't that serious and go to a damn clinic and see a doctor.
And if he felt "tingling" in the wrist, he ought to go to a clinic too and not waste the time of people trying to treat SERIOUS injuries and illnesses in the ER. And then he has the nerve to gripe about having to wait! Sheesh!
I agree. I work in a pediatric office and I am always amazed at the folks who take their kids to the ER (or even urgent care) instead of calling the office. We have someone on call 24/7. Much of the time it is unnecessary for the person to come in after hours.
He could fix this liberal mess like he did the liberal mess under Carter and of course lib controlled congress then.
Obama is a total fraud, anything he does is a scam.
Yeah, what a mess. Everything was just fine and wonderful until that troublemaker Obama came along. The US spends the most of all countries and is rated #37 in healthcare. We really had it great, why should we risk losing such a great system?
The "knowledge deficit" among some re: healthcare is amazing to me.
Medicaid: You have to either be on welfare or very low income to apply. In Colorado, adults can have no more income than 60% of poverty level. That's right, 60%. It won't even cover you if you are one of the "wealthy" poor.
"Voluntarily uninsured": Yes, they do exist. However, the income level set for this category is very low as well, 2 1/2 X the poverty level, which is $26,000/yr for one person. How someone earning a little over $2000/mo, and taking home probably ~$1500/mo, can afford a $500/mo insurance premium is beyond me.
The employer based system is a patchwork of different coverages, some quite good, some gawd awful. A lot of employers do everything in their power to keep employees from qualifying for it, too.
These are just a few of the problems with it.
$500/month premium for one individual? Where are you getting your numbers? I am one individual who has the option of buying excellent health insurance through my employer, but I choose to buy it on my own and I pay $53/month. Yep, that's FIFTY THREE dollars. I don't doubt that there are people out there who are being financially raped on the micro level, but $500 for a single policy seems like a hefty dose of exaggeration to me on the macro level.
It sounds like the Democrats have you scared sh*tless. Either that or you believe everything you're told?
Niecet4 wrote:
"To me affordable means $600 per month for a family of four with $30 prescription co-pays, $20 doctor co-pays and $200 emergency room co-pays. That's affordable. "
$600 per month is affordable? To make that affordable the take home income would have to be about $3,000 per month. Affordable for those who earn (at least) about $20-$25 per hour.
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