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We Don't Give A D*amn If The Uninsured Live Or Die!
Wouldn't this be the most honest Republican response to the healthcare issue?
Instead of fear mongering and inventing stories of how terrible the healthcare is in other countries.
Of course but they know that won't get them where they want to go so they make up lies and strike fear into the hearts of people who are too uninformed to understand what is going on now.
Talking of death panels, they already exist, YOUR life is decided by a committee at your insurance company based on how much money its going to cost, that is already happening. BECAUSE the whole system is based on a money making machine, not compassion and caring for patients. IF we had a Universal Health Plan, cost would not be so much of an issue.
Insurance companies today will set up any hurdle they can to keep from paying your claims, to deny your treatment all in the name of the almighty dollar. I have SEEN it happen. I have seen suicidal teenagers allowed out of inpatient treatment when they should have been retained because they were in danger of harming themselves but that inpatient treatment was getting expensive so they let her out, I followed the case and this girl wracked up more genuine suicide attempts then any other patient I had seen.
I also saw case after case that should have been reported to DCF because a child was in danger but the insurance company didn't want to make a big deal out of it for fear it would put the company in a position to put out more money.
Then when you get down to the simple business of paying claims, any little excuse they could find they would turn down payment on a claim, make no effort to explain or help the provider with the claims processing.
You Republicans have no real idea what your saying when you say you like it the way it is now. The way it is now is scandalous, pure and simple. If you haven't been through it yet, just wait, you will.
My own Father with a history of heart problems had an HMO, his family doctor didn't follow up on his tests himself and would NOT refer him to see a cardiologist because it costs the HMO MORE money to send you to see a specialist. I bet my Father wishes he had paid more for a plan with out of network benefits and no PCP referral required EXCEPT FOR NOW HE IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THIS SYSTEM !!!
No, there are some studies out there showing that there is a group of people who, although financially able, simply do not want to buy health insurance.
They are known as the "invisibles" - that is how they feel they are - Invincible
So, these "invincibles" should be allowed to opt out of insurance - legally. Sort of like a DNR for healthy idiots. If they refuse to participate in a insurance plan, they will receive no medical care for which they cannot pay. Their names would go into a national database and no matter where they are, the minute their money runs out, so does their health care. If they die from a treatable illness, it would be by their own choice.
Of course but they know that won't get them where they want to go so they make up lies and strike fear into the hearts of people who are too uninformed to understand what is going on now.
Talking of death panels, they already exist, YOUR life is decided by a committee at your insurance company based on how much money its going to cost, that is already happening. BECAUSE the whole system is based on a money making machine, not compassion and caring for patients. IF we had a Universal Health Plan, cost would not be so much of an issue.
Insurance companies today will set up any hurdle they can to keep from paying your claims, to deny your treatment all in the name of the almighty dollar. I have SEEN it happen. I have seen suicidal teenagers allowed out of inpatient treatment when they should have been retained because they were in danger of harming themselves but that inpatient treatment was getting expensive so they let her out, I followed the case and this girl wracked up more genuine suicide attempts then any other patient I had seen.
I also saw case after case that should have been reported to DCF because a child was in danger but the insurance company didn't want to make a big deal out of it for fear it would put the company in a position to put out more money.
Then when you get down to the simple business of paying claims, any little excuse they could find they would turn down payment on a claim, make no effort to explain or help the provider with the claims processing.
You Republicans have no real idea what your saying when you say you like it the way it is now. The way it is now is scandalous, pure and simple. If you haven't been through it yet, just wait, you will.
My own Father with a history of heart problems had an HMO, his family doctor didn't follow up on his tests himself and would NOT refer him to see a cardiologist because it costs the HMO MORE money to send you to see a specialist. I bet my Father wishes he had paid more for a plan with out of network benefits and no PCP referral required EXCEPT FOR NOW HE IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THIS SYSTEM !!!
So, these "invincibles" should be allowed to opt out of insurance - legally. Sort of like a DNR for healthy idiots. If they refuse to participate in a insurance plan, they will receive no medical care for which they cannot pay. Their names would go into a national database and no matter where they are, the minute their money runs out, so does their health care. If they die from a treatable illness, it would be by their own choice.
I think the deal is so far, they would pay a fee every year to NOT be burdened with insurance....another way of saying they would actually choose to pay for the opportunity to pay out of pocket retail for whatever hideous accident befalls them.
I'll bet plenty of those same people who choose to be uninsured complain about other people who are equally uninsured, but who cant afford to buy insurance.
We Don't Give A D*amn If The Uninsured Live Or Die!
Wouldn't this be the most honest Republican response to the healthcare issue?
Instead of fear mongering and inventing stories of how terrible the healthcare is in other countries.
If you really cared about the uninsured you would ask why they are uninsured and try to craft solutions to that problem. And, contrary to leftist cant that corporate greed is the cause of this problem, you'll find that the high cost of health insurance is directly attributable to government meddling in that market. Just as government meddling in the mortgage market created the financial crisis so, too, have government regulations and mandates succeeded in making health insurance unaffordable for many people and businesses. Everything that the government has a hand in turns to crap. Open your eyes and stop drinking the statist Kool Aid.
My wife and I live responsibly. We have lived through hard times, ups and downs and we have survived by paying attention to our responsibilities. We always budgeted for what we needed first. We shopped for food responsibly, we insured our cars, homes, and persons responsibly. When we ran into hardships, we moved, we cut out everything that was frivolous to save money so we could afford the things we needed first. When we had more money than our needs required, we saved buffers to be able to handle emergencies without putting ourselves back into debt.
There were ups and downs in all this, but we were able to be completely responsible for ourselves the entire way. My method works perfectly for me. It has handled every problem and situation I have come across. I do not need your plans, your opinions, your thoughts on what is best for me. You do not know me, you are complaining about how you can not survive and yet I have lived in many hardships as many of you who complain.
You have no right to demand of me anything. You have no right to insist I pay for you or that I live like you. We live in a country founded on individual freedom, of individual thought, and individual pursuit of happiness. There is no magic plan of one size fits all. Each must attend to their own situation and tailor specifically to their own needs. Our country's government exists to protect us from aggressors both foreign and domestic. It exists to protect our constitutional rights and individual freedoms.
Forcing plans such as these on the people is counter to everything this country exists. The government is overstepping its boundaries, becoming the aggressor on its own people to serve specific numbers agendas through oppressive regulation and taxation. It is un-American, it is at odds with everything that has been fought for and protected in this country. For if I can not be safe against my own countryman's aggression of public oppression, then everything to which this country has established itself on is meaningless. Its constitution becomes simply decorative, its intended design, merely a formality and all of the oppressive actions we have seen throughout history becomes a model for those who would seek it. Individual freedom is traded for individual self interest and desire to sway opinion to enforce agenda.
I honestly and sincerely ask those of you who truly wish to solve problems with those who are in need of health care to seek options that do so without enforcing demands on the individual, without taxing as a whole, without disregarding or penalizing the individuals choice in the matter no matter how much you may disagree with their choice. For their choice is the very essence of our foundation and to disregard it is to create the most severe injustice possible.
My own Father with a history of heart problems had an HMO, his family doctor didn't follow up on his tests himself and would NOT refer him to see a cardiologist because it costs the HMO MORE money to send you to see a specialist. I bet my Father wishes he had paid more for a plan with out of network benefits and no PCP referral required EXCEPT FOR NOW HE IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THIS SYSTEM !!!
You want to match antecdotes?
Bet my BIL wishes he had loosened his purse strings to go outside the VA when the doctors there finally officially diagnosed the cancer that was a bit easier to find after spreading throughout his body in the 6 months they kept sending him home with no diagnosis(5 appointments including 2 admissions)
No, there are some studies out there showing that there is a group of people who, although financially able, simply do not want to buy health insurance.
They are known as the "invisibles" - that is how they feel they are - Invincible
a malady of the young (and in some cases, stupid), always cured by age + accidents or illenss. . . . this too shall pass!
If you really cared about the uninsured you would ask why they are uninsured and try to craft solutions to that problem. And, contrary to leftist cant that corporate greed is the cause of this problem, you'll find that the high cost of health insurance is directly attributable to government meddling in that market. Just as government meddling in the mortgage market created the financial crisis so, too, have government regulations and mandates succeeded in making health insurance unaffordable for many people and businesses. Everything that the government has a hand in turns to crap. Open your eyes and stop drinking the statist Kool Aid.
I'm not an opponent of markets. On the contrary, I've spent a lot of my career defending their virtues. But the fact is that the free market doesn't work for health insurance, and never did. All we ever had was a patchwork, semiprivate system supported by large government subsidies.
That system is now failing. And a rigid belief that markets are always superior to government programs - a belief that ignores basic economics as well as experience - stands in the way of rational thinking about what should replace it.
I believe this group would pay an annual fee for the freedom to pay out of pocket.
Wow! Give that sentence some thought.
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