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Yeah I will run that by the dozen or so people and or business that I can think of off the top of my head that I work with, that do not work for Boeing, but indirectly are in business because of Boeing. Everyone from auto dealerships to appliance sales feel the effects of Boeing's ups and downs.
Elliott says Boeing will have to create at least 3,800 jobs and invest more than $750 million within seven years to take advantage of the various inducements.
North Myrtle Beach Times (http://www.nmbtimes.com/nm/publish/news_314.html - broken link)
While 3,800 jobs is a positive for SC, to say that an entire state's economy will get "much better" or "much worse" based on this information alone is much more than a little naive.
How much is Boeing paying the new workers? If it's less than their union counterparts, "auto dealerships" and "appliance sales" would profit more from the union workers.
More like a political action committee with an incestous relationship with one political party, selling votes for power and in the process they drive up the cost of living for the vast majority of working families.
Scary rhetoric, indeed. Mommy!
(You are aware that all business interests have lobbyists?)
More like a political action committee with an incestous relationship with one political party, selling votes for power and in the process they drive up the cost of living for the vast majority of working families.
Unless the incestuous relationship involves only the rich, the powerful lobbyists, then it is all fine and dandy.
Seriously, are you one of them? Or, just a self-defeater who simply believes that his/her "superior" will always have your best interest in mind.
Southwest Airlines is the most unionized airline in the Nation. It pays the highest wages. For decades it has kicked ass on other less unionized airlines.
It holds records for consecutive profitable quarters.
So there's a counterexample to your silly Boeing anecdote.
No its not any kind of counterexample. Boeing is major employer in an entire region, when its labor unions get to greedy they decide its time to look at other options , so when they pull out how is that better for the union workers than what they had? Steven Pearlstein - To Survive, Unions Must Head Back to Their Roots - washingtonpost.com
"Unionized workers at Southwest Airlines have shown that it is possible to have good-paying jobs while accommodating market realities."
I ain't talking private. I'm thinking more along the line of communal case load.
But I'd hate to have my kid complain every time I take the low bidder.
We have kind of this system in Texas. If you can afford to live in the wealthiest parts of town your kids can go to exclusive school districts where the are no poor/average income kids. My kids actually go here. They go to school with kids of Asian doctors, Asian engineers, CEO's kids, CFO's kids, Law Partner's kids, Dallas Cowboy's kids. They have a pre-med program in the High Schools, then tutoring to excel in subjects at Kumon after school. White average income kids can't afford to live in the district.
Public education GOP style.....Survival of the fittest.
No its not any kind of counterexample. Boeing is major employer in an entire region, when its labor unions get to greedy they decide its time to look at other options , so when they pull out how is that better for the union workers than what they had?
Did you miss the part about the incentives offered to Boeing by the state of SC? That's why Boeing is setting up shop in the South, not because of the union. Boeing is under no obligation to renew its contract with the machinists. Therefore, if the union were the sole motivator in Boeing's decision, it would have hired non-union machinists from the Seattle area. You don't have to move across the country to find workers.
Class systems are always trying to limit entry unto the upper levels and maintain the differences. Education is a fundamental part of this system. Rich kids go to rich schools and get to know other rich kids so they will help their friends through exclusive colleges with new rich kids. Then they join the "work force" as jr executives and never ever meet their lesser beings.
New Hampshire schools are a lot like Texas. Wealthy towns have expensive houses and wealthy residents and they have some of the best schools anywhere. Poor cities with collapsed economies have poor people attending relatively poor schools so the kids simply do not have a very good chance of ever getting out of poverty.
OP - maybe Boeing moved because most of the materials for the Dreamliner are made in South Carolina. The workers of SC need to force their legislature to repeal the absurd Right to Work laws.
We have kind of this system in Texas. If you can afford to live in the wealthiest parts of town your kids can go to exclusive school districts where the are no poor/average income kids. My kids actually go here. They go to school with kids of Asian doctors, Asian engineers, CEO's kids, CFO's kids, Law Partner's kids, Dallas Cowboy's kids. They have a pre-med program in the High Schools, then tutoring to excel in subjects at Kumon after school. White average income kids can't afford to live in the district.
Public education GOP style.....Survival of the fittest.
Did you miss the part about the incentives offered to Boeing by the state of SC? That's why Boeing is setting up shop in the South, not because of the union. Boeing is under no obligation to renew its contract with the machinists. Therefore, if the union were the sole motivator in Boeing's decision, it would have hired non-union machinists from the Seattle area. You don't have to move across the country to find workers.
No , did you miss this part of my original post? (Unfortunately Boeing is not an isolated or unique case, when you couple the greedy unions and the greedy government in this state it makes for a very hostile environment for business) There is no way that Boeing could ever go non union in this state, period.
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