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When I worked at Boeing in the late 60's Boeing held a world-wide monopoly due to product excellence.
I was a member of the Machinists Union for a while, and they graciously and politely kept quiet and to themselves, because Boeing management was paying superior wages as a competitive tool to acquire the best employees from all over the U.S. and foreign nations as well.
Then, the Euro Peons (pronounced pee-ons) subsidized their stupid AirBus, while getting the hippie liberals in the U.S. to condemn Boeing's SST, the most beautiful bird in the world, because of anticipated noise pollution.
Boeing has gone downhill since then and I'm sure the unions want to see it nationalized so as to force a "level playing field" with Europe.
I was in SST mock-up at the time, and I really didn't like seeing that beautiful bird go down to Socialism. I was also reading Atlas Shrugged at the time.
The beginning of the end of the middle class in America was Reagan destroying the union of those who helped planes land safely. The final nail in our coffin was Clinton's NAFTA. People are so blind that they simply do not realize that the protection and pay fought for by the union protected all workers and was responsible for the growth of the middle class. When they broke the unions they declared open season on all workers and you can see for yourself what has happened to the middle class since then. So many people these days have the "serf" mentality that convinces them that "the master" SHOULD have complete control over all resources and all they deserve is the crumbs from the master's table.
Somehow, your concern for out of work union members seems a bit contrived.
Do you show the same concern when a sheet metal supplier loses its bid to contract with Boeing? Where's your concern for those workers?
To be honest I dont give a rats ass about union workers, they deserve what they get, but as i said there are thousands of honest,hard working , individuals and small business that will be hurt by Boeing leaving, they are the ones that I feel for,( you know looking out for the working man.)
Nice try , I know that is what is taught in the manual , but it doesnt wash. A sheet metal supplier does not have the ability to shut down production and force high level negotiations while trying to hold the company hostage. If they lose a bid.
To be honest I dont give a rats ass about union workers, they deserve what they get, but as i said there are thousands of honest,hard working , individuals and small business that will be hurt by Boeing leaving, they are the ones that I feel for,( you know looking out for the working man.)
Companies relocate all the time - both unionized and non-union. Do you show the same concern for all workers impacted by corporate decisions, or only when a union is involved?
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Nice try , I know that is what is taught in the manual , but it doesnt wash. A sheet metal supplier does not have the ability to shut down production and force high level negotiations while trying to hold the company hostage. If they lose a bid.
So? We're discussing lost jobs, not the contrasted abilities of unions and suppliers.
The machinsit union has been living high off the hog here at Boeing, and now it looks like they overplayed their hand Boeing is moving operations to nonunion South Carolina. The union who supposedly is looking out for the working man their "brothers" , not only loses out because of their greed, but they also hurt those they claim to help. Boeing is to the puget sound region , like ford or GM are to Michigan. When Boeing is thriving the area is thriving, they are a large part of the engine that drives the economy around here. Looks like our economy just took a big hit, for a long time. South Carolinas economy is going to boom however!! Unfortunately Boeing is not an isolated or unique case, when you couple the greedy unions and the greedy government in this state it makes for a very hostile environment for business. Now I have to go and buy some real estate in Charleston!
The UAW did the same thing here in SE MI. We lead the nation in unemployment at 15.3% and all the Governor can think to do is suck up to the unions that got us here. With all the other people out of work, they want jobs programs that exclude everyone who is not a UAW member. The rest of us just don't matter, but I blame us because we keep reelecting the same bunch hoping to recreate the union driven economy of the 60s and 70s.
The UAW did the same thing here in SE MI. We lead the nation in unemployment at 15.3% and all the Governor can think to do is suck up to the unions that got us here. With all the other people out of work, they want jobs programs that exclude everyone who is not a UAW member. The rest of us just don't matter, but I blame us because we keep reelecting the same bunch hoping to recreate the union driven economy of the 60s and 70s.
Imagine, the scenario if one of the big three were to move to a right to work state and set up shop, they wouldnt be needing any government bailout right now!
So stop trying to make the comparison where there is none.
I was comparing the bidding process, not the abilities of different entities. The bidding process is identical. Labor is a commodity. Unions offer bids for that commodity in the same manner that suppliers of other commodities offer bids. The entities themselves are different, but the process is the same.
Imagine, the scenario if one of the big three were to move to a right to work state and set up shop, they wouldnt be needing any government bailout right now!
Ford isn't a member of the Big Three?
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