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Old 11-11-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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In Italy/Sicily, my bf told me that they don't call themselves white, but Italian or Sicilian. He said that when they come her they are almost coerced into picking a color. His true identity is Sicilian, but he had to identify himself as a generic category such as white. Why?

 
Old 11-11-2009, 11:23 AM
 
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I cannot believe the OP

These people from southern Italy are of European ancestry- and are considered 'Caucasian' or white.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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In Italy/Sicily, my bf told me that they don't call themselves white, but Italian or Sicilian. He said that when they come her they are almost coerced into picking a color. His true identity is Sicilian, but he had to identify himself as a generic category such as white. Why?
Can you imagine the employment application with . . . ]

Hungarian American
Italian American
German American
Polish American
Irish American
Maltese American
French American
Swiss American
British American
Norwegian American
Danish American

Etc, etc, etc
 
Old 11-11-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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What is Caucasian? So many Sicilians have 'African' Blood. So many Sicilians are very dark with curly hair. So what constitutes a Caucasian? I have black friends from Europe, born and raised, are they white too?
 
Old 11-11-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Why should you even have to put your nationality on an employment application?
 
Old 11-11-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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What is Caucasian? So many Sicilians have 'African' Blood. So many Sicilians are very dark with curly hair. So what constitutes a Caucasian? I have black friends from Europe, born and raised, are they white too?
Your original question dealt with "Sicilian" and "Italian" which would be ethnic or national. Now this question sounds like a scientific question, not a political one. Racial identity and origins is a quagmire.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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I cannot believe the OP

These people from southern Italy are of European ancestry- and are considered 'Caucasian' or white.
If we were to consider ancestry, we all ultimately belong to one race (human).

"Caucasian" (one of the three "races" defined for political reasons) doesn't mean white (one of the colors/shades for complexion), although it has been more or less hijacked to mean it.

Those who were dissatisfied with accepting just one race ("human"), went ahead and classified humans into Negroid (Africa), Caucasoid (Europe, the middle east and into India, and Mongloid (East and South East Asia), likely based on facial features.

And now,"white" or "black" is somehow a race.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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did you just watch this movie or something?

YouTube - "Sicilians"-scene from "True Romance"-Dennis Hopper Christopher Walken
 
Old 11-11-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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haha, europeans don't like to consider the middle-east caucasians.

they are definitely caucasians. the reason is not based on honesty but on political and especially religious affiliations. europe is christian and the middle east is mostly islamic. this is the real reason whites or europeans play cognitive dissonance with the rest of their caucasian race.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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In Italy/Sicily, my bf told me that they don't call themselves white, but Italian or Sicilian. He said that when they come her they are almost coerced into picking a color. His true identity is Sicilian, but he had to identify himself as a generic category such as white. Why?
Are you joking with this post??

Sicilian/Italian are nationalities, not races.

I am of Italian/Sicilian descent - I am also Caucasian.
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