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Old 11-15-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Was it Reagan or H.W. Bush that gave blanket legal status to immigrants? One of them guys back then did.


it was under Reagan....but it was owned by TED Kennedy, the author and pusher of 8 amnesties since 1965



Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

Ted Kennedy on the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Bill, Quote:
“This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.” End of Quote.

Ted Kennedy(2007) on the McCain/Kennedy immigration proposal, Quote:
“The plan will strengthen our borders and our national security while providing a tough but fair path to citizenship for millions of people.” End of Quote


In 1986, Ted Kennedy’s blanket amnesty for 2.7 million illegal aliens promised a lot more enforcement but did not set any requirements for actual reductions in illegal immigration.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended mily members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.
In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The majority don't make enough to pay taxes so your plan is to get these un-educated Peasants jobs paying 15 bucks an hour?

Please show me the owner of an ag business looking for stoop labor that will be happy to pay 15-20 an hour for stoop labor.


They will simply keep hiring Illegals while this horde of un-educated gain access to the rest of our Social Service network they couldn't access before.

Now they can access the full menu of Social Services their anchor kids already had access to. Great idea for success.

Thank. That's jsut something people don't get. I read that 40% of Americans. don't pay taxes. Just don't make enough. The illegals would fall right into that category.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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You miss my point - unless you're Native American, the fact is that you're all the spawn of illegal immigrants.

American settlers were illegal immigrants.
People who cut not cut it in their own countries too.
Which Native American law was violated? I mean for it to have been illegal for the settlers, there had to have been a law violated.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Immigrants don't have a welfare state of mind like American citizens do. They work, and work hard. You people complain if you and if you don't. There's no winning. So legalize them, have them pay taxes and serve this great country as they should.
Have you ever lived in southern calif?!!! Some immigrants may not have an entitlement mindset, but there are plenty of immigrant advocacy groups that show them the way to the govt's largesse. once enticed, human nature takes over. keep in mind that these are very poor ppl who think of our country as a very rich land. i doubt that they consider that the country is rich b/c of the extorted tax paying citizens (even out of those citizens, 40-45% pay no income taxes). what hope is there that a poor illegal with children will contribute ANYthing in the way of federal or state income taxes?

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Old 11-15-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Was it Reagan or H.W. Bush that gave blanket legal status to immigrants? One of them guys back then did.
it was Reagan and as I have said before: he was, in my opinion a great President but that was one of his huge mistakes, maybe the biggest....But he only signed the bill, we did not introduce it...

Nita
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Tell it to the people here in Michigan who are losing their homes and filing bankruptcy in record numbers because we have a 15.3% unemployment rate.

When will you kool-aid drinkers on the left realize that the Democrats only care about themselves and winning the next election? The only reason they want to do this when so many Americans are losing everything is to create a new Democratic voting block.


Border security?

File that away with Medicare savings under Magic Unicorns.
Do you REALLY think that the Republicans were any better? George Bush spent by leaps and bounds in constant efforts to buy up votes for his campaigns. The congress should require a 2/3 vote for any tax increase, much like the CA legislature does.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You're 110% correct! The point is, conservatives are or will be quick to state how Obama is doing this all the while their progenitors did it too. Kinda like forgetting Reagan and H.W. Bush addressed school kids but when Obama does the same thing it's spreading some socialist agenda to those school kids. Totally wacko.
There it is again, the hate. If you read what is being posted you would see that many feel Reagan made a mistake. Two wrongs have yet to make a right....

Nita
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thank. That's jsut something people don't get. I read that 40% of Americans. don't pay taxes. Just don't make enough. The illegals would fall right into that category.
That's currently 47%..not 40%.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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Default It's called GET THE VOTE OUT!!

If U.S.A. as in Legal/ born in America peolpe do not take notes,and stand up,
this Chicago machine will gun all of us down,useing illegals to become what the liberal thought of " citizens "of the U.S.A. to be legal in their minds!
"Liberalism is a mental disorder" as Michael Savage wrote a book about!
Social/deceptive/communism seems to have finally arrived in America!
But it will have a cost,starting with creating houseing crisis=the most financial scandel at the most lost,repo/credit crisis,=bail out the banks, then jobs security=financial hurt,=no mean to provide for family!,
then turns millions out of work people into welfare receptors,then deceive
many more people,such as gimmit sales/cars for clunkers=up to $4500 to
probably be added as earned income to you taxes in 2010,which means those who thought u received "a value" above the trade in,will now have added car payments and more taxes to pay in 2010,and then take away stabil/steady/health care,=bring the most pride/possession/security away,last part of our rights,and change the Constition as has been over 200 yrs. working!! to social/communist theoretical "Change We Need",
that Americans=who believe in freedom of speech,prosperity//security
financially,ect...Especially take note:these thug like theory are opening some eyes finally as more deception increases under 1Nat'L of OB's GOV.
The Sleeping Giant is Awakened!!Fight to keep our rights!
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:57 AM
 
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If you haven't seen this yet, take the time. It's quite eye opening.


YouTube - Immigration Gumballs
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