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So Theliberalvoice wants to state that "prolife" is "ANTI-WOMAN?" Do you even know what you are talking about? You are young, and uninformed for sure TLV. Goodness, the ignorance on these threads amazes me.
IGNORE due to ignorance of life and inexperience.
Yes she is young however i will give her all the credit in the world for having passion.
Yes she is young however i will give her all the credit in the world for having passion.
Thanks. Same here even if I disagree. PLUS REP!
But you will find I do agree with several conservative stances. I am against illegal immigration. Against welfare UNLESS NEED is demonstrated and doing background checks. I do not know what your stance on other things are because I usually only see you posting on abortion threads.
I find your statement "pro-life is anti-woman" ludicrous. The reason is, there are so many woman who are pro-life. There are so many pro-life woman who are women in all positions in life.
The founder of the "Right to Life" movement was a woman - a Doctor.
I'd suggest you perhaps want to re-think your "anti-woman" rhetoric.
There can be no logical response to the facts you give. well said
But you will find I do agree with several conservative stances. I am against illegal immigration. Against welfare UNLESS NEED is demonstrated and doing backgroudn checks. I do not know what your stance on other things are because I usually only see you posting on abortion threads.
I am anti death penalty and do not oppose gay marriage. In that i do not think people choose ot be gay
And there are so many women who are pro abortion. Hope that turns you on.
I don't know what it is with you and the "turns you on" comments - Again, a purely emotional response from you.
I, and a majority of Americans, oppose abortions because we believe LIFE begins at conception. We believe that that it is a human life growing within the female.
You do know that a majority of Americans oppose abortions, don't you?
So, trying knocking off with the "turn you on" rhetoric - the emotionalism.
Let's try discussing the issues unemotionally.
People can disagree - without being disagreeable. I love to watch and listen to James Carville and Mary Matlin - who take the disagreeing without being disagreeable to new heights.
BTW - if you ever get a chance to see these two in person - go see them. They are truly great together.
So Theliberalvoice wants to state that "prolife" is "ANTI-WOMAN?" Do you even know what you are talking about? You are young, and uninformed for sure TLV. Goodness, the ignorance on these threads amazes me.
IGNORE due to ignorance of life and inexperience.
Its a lack of maturity. She will find that as she matures, her ideas and ideals will change.
I don't know what it is with you and the "turns you on" comments - Again, a purely emotional response from you.
I, and a majority of Americans, oppose abortions because we believe LIFE begins at conception. We believe that that it is a human life growing within the female.
You do know that a majority of Americans oppose abortions, don't you?
So, trying knocking off with the "turn you on" rhetoric - the emotionalism.
Let's try discussing the issues unemotionally.
People can disagree - without being disagreeable. I love to watch and listen to James Carville and Mary Matlin - who take the disagreeing without being disagreeable to new heights.
BTW - if you ever get a chance to see these two in person - go see them. They are truly great together.
The turn you on thing is to mock people who say "pro abortion".
I do not care what the country opposes and doesn't. It does NOT matter. Denying gays marriage is wrong the majority of the country agrees with that. The majority thought interracial marriage was wrong. The majority thought that women should be property of husbands.
I could give a rats ass about what you or the rest of the country things to be honest with you.
And I do not know who James and Mary are but I will check them out.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Its a lack of maturity. She will find that as she matures, her ideas and ideals will change.
I am plenty mature. My ideals of being pro woman (as a woman) will NEVER change. I will never think women should be forced to carry pregnancy that they don't want too.
I find your statement "pro-life is anti-woman" ludicrous. The reason is, there are so many woman who are pro-life. There are so many pro-life woman who are women in all positions in life.
The founder of the "Right to Life" movement was a woman - a Doctor.
I'd suggest you perhaps want to re-think your "anti-woman" rhetoric.
Pro-life is not inherently anti-woman, but imposing that as if it's the way it should be, and not giving women a choice, is what is anti-woman.
Being pro-life, and framing that stance using words such as "life," paints a false scenario where women - or anyone - who is for the choice of a woman having control over her body is seen as a murderer. It is divisive rhetoric.
Imposing a pro-life stance on all women is decidedly anti-woman because it reinforces the antiquated, patriarchal view that women are supposed to be baby carriers without a say in how they determine the fate of their own lives and bodies. That is completely unacceptable.
It doesn't matter if the "Right to Life" movement was founded by a woman - she has no authority to speak for all women (A), and (B) she was, like all women, a product of a society that encourages and commands women to be incubators for children. Just because she accepted that role doesn't mean all other women have to agree with her, and it doesn't qualify her perspective on the issue moreso than any other woman.
You are usually halfway reasonable in your posts. But this is utter garbage and one of the stupidest things I have ever heard in my life. If, however, you must create such a ridiculously absurd assertion to make you feel better about your stance, that is your "choice".
Pro-choice is anti-baby. There, how does that work for you?
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