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Old 02-25-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: California
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someon having an abortion does she prefer death for the unborn or does she prefer life?
Are you speaking of a woman who has an abortion for any reason or those folks who just want abortion kept legal? When you figure that out then you can start asking questions.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Thank you. I get it but the other things they talk about are not and have not been in danger of being taken away so the primary goal of the Pro-Choice movement is to keep abortion legal. Which is fine with me but if they are going to call the other side names they better be able to handle it back that is really all I was trying to say.

I like to place myself on the other side of issues from time to time just to make sure I am not missing anything and that I am strong in my belief and argument of something.
I get what you are saying, but for me I don't see it in isolation. If Roe v. Wade was in jeopardy then maybe. One of the major reasons the pro-choice movement faces the adversity it does is because so many people do not understand exactly what it is.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Are you speaking of a woman who has an abortion for any reason or those folks who just want abortion kept legal? When you figure that out then you can start asking questions.
There is no difference between the two if you support the use of abortion , you are a pro abortionist.
For woman who actually do have abortions its clear the prefer death for the fetus then life.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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No assumptions in my statement

you really think you know what is in the mind of every pro choice person, and what they wish?
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I get what you are saying, but for me I don't see it in isolation. If Roe v. Wade was in jeopardy then maybe. One of the major reasons the pro-choice movement faces the adversity it does is because so many people do not understand exactly what it is.
if roe versus wade was over turned it would not make abortion illegal.It would make it a states right issue. So rather that debating on one issue there would be 50 debates one for each state. the people of the state then could decide
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: California
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I get what you are saying, but for me I don't see it in isolation. If Roe v. Wade was in jeopardy then maybe. One of the major reasons the pro-choice movement faces the adversity it does is because so many people do not understand exactly what it is.
I agree. And according to at least one poster here what it is means you want death, death and more death. Period.

Ehh, IRL everyone is prochoice (they just make up their own definition). On forums people just take a stand, or use a phrase, and don't budge because they know it will get people posting. You can tell within 2-3 posts who is really thinking and who is just wasting everyones time (or is actually simpleminded)
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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you really think you know what is in the mind of every pro choice person, and what they wish?
No i claim that if you favor abortion you are pro abortion, if you were not pro abortion you would be pro life or anti choice whichever term you desire
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Over There
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woman who have abortions do not look to see the mental and physical damge that can me done to themselves.
Abortion at times can kill the unborn and destroy the mother.

I agree it can be a devastating thing to go through but if you go back and read this thread I posted my story with abortion and why I do support it in the early stages.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Sorry about the source, but is the most concise definition I could find:

"Pro-choice describes the political and ethical view that a woman should have control over her fertility, and the choice to continue or terminate a pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, which includes access to sexual education; access to safe and legal abortion, contraception and fertility treatments; and legal protection from forced abortions (should also say forced pregnancy IMO). Individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the pro-choice movement."

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First line says it all. Pro choice is about the right of a woman to terminate pregnancy.
terminate pregnancy is abortion
if you are pro choice you are for abortion
If you are for abortion you are pro abortion
OK, so humor me here for a second. You have responded to the first sentence, now would you mind responding to the rest, and if possible without using the term pro-abortion.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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No i claim that if you favor abortion you are pro abortion, if you were not pro abortion you would be pro life or anti choice whichever term you desire

talk about avoiding the question. nice side step.
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