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I agree with Stack. He is actually spot on BUT I very strongly disagree with KILLING other people. Truth is, we are the just the ******* of the government. Even if we protest, they will continue to rape us.
Agree with every word you said. We've all been raped so hard and so long I hardly feel it anymore. Here's to all my fellow "*******".
Precisely. What Stack and others here fail to understand is that a baseline level of bureaucratic inefficiency an alienation are inherent in a populous, industrialised country. What they further fail to understand is that they are not nearly the first to discover this. Marx, Stirner, and many others whose ideologies that many would find deplorable theorised about such things a hundred years ago. The only difference being that these people actually brought about real effects. I doubt this non-event will affect anything.
Marx and Stirner's solution to the dilemma were diametrically opposed to the other. Although both were left Hegalians, Marx was a collectivist and Stirner was an egoistic individualist. I don't think Stirner was concerned too much about the plight of humanity like Marx was. Does the Stirner quote, "All things are nothing to me" sound compassionate to you? None the less, Stirner did have some positive and innovative ideas. One was that we should not consider law as sacred. Too bad that idea hasn't caught on.
Stirner did have some positive and innovative ideas. One was that we should not consider law as sacred. Too bad that idea hasn't caught on.
I think we all go through that period in college when we think anarchy is cool, for most people it lasts about a minute, then we realize it is a ridiculous concept for obvious reasons.
All I've said is that the government has technological resources that would allow them to do large-scale tracking of internet posts, cellphone and land-line communications. Nothing you've said rebuts that.
This seems to be true in this post 9-11 Patriot Act era. We are giving up freedoms for supposed security. I can't help but be a little skeptical as to who is really being helped with this or if I feel safer. Still, I gotta think that a relatively benign discussion of guys like McVeigh and Stack is fairly low on the totem pole of priorities for Homeland Security, regardless of their capabilities.
Somewhere between absolute obedience and total anarchy lies the answer. Again, in the words of noted American Thomas Jefferson, "Those who are willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither."
I think we all go through that period in college when we think anarchy is cool, for most people it lasts about a minute, then we realize it is a ridiculous concept for obvious reasons.
I question whether people like Henry David Thoreau, Emma Goldman, or Noam Chomsky, just to name a few, would agree with you. If you dismiss anarchism too quickly, it is because like most people, you haven't understood it properly. The core principle of anarchism is simply self rule, which is the natural result of self ownership. So do you feel you can rule your own life? Do you own yourself? If not, who does?
I think we all go through that period in college when we think anarchy is cool, for most people it lasts about a minute, then we realize it is a ridiculous concept for obvious reasons.
I question whether people like Henry David Thoreau, Emma Goldman, or Noam Chomsky, just to name a few, would agree with you. If you dismiss anarchism too quickly, it is because like most people, you haven't understood it properly. The core principle of anarchism is simply self rule, which is the natural result of self ownership. So do you feel you can rule your own life? Do you own yourself? If not, who does?
Diversion. You applaud this coward as a hero, and condone domestic terrorism. No amount of dissembling and diversion is going to change that.
I sincerely hope you are on some agency's watch list.
I'm flattered to think that I may be on some watch list. Perhaps those watching me will consider who is a true believer in freedom; the watched or the watcher.
This seems to be true in this post 9-11 Patriot Act era. We are giving up freedoms for supposed security. I can't help but be a little skeptical as to who is really being helped with this or if I feel safer. Still, I gotta think that a relatively benign discussion of guys like McVeigh and Stack is fairly low on the totem pole of priorities for Homeland Security, regardless of their capabilities.
Somewhere between absolute obedience and total anarchy lies the answer. Again, in the words of noted American Thomas Jefferson, "Those who are willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither."
Indeed and the majority of the posters on this thread do in fact deserve neither.
I question whether people like Henry David Thoreau, Emma Goldman, or Noam Chomsky, just to name a few, would agree with you. If you dismiss anarchism too quickly, it is because like most people, you haven't understood it properly. The core principle of anarchism is simply self rule, which is the natural result of self ownership. So do you feel you can rule your own life? Do you own yourself? If not, who does?
Therein lies the dilemma, how could 308 million people living according to their own rules possibly function. I guess it works for some on this board who live in their hillside hide-outs in rural Montana with their arsenals at the ready, but for the rest of us sane mortals, living in chaos and mayhem is not at all appealing. For the rest of us who choose to live in a civilized society there is a line drawn in the sand, and if you cross it you face the consequences or use resources to defend yourself. That's what happens when you choose to live in a civilized society. I believe there are some lovely international locales where vigilantism and anarchy are the preferred method of government, why don't you check them out if that's what you are looking for?
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