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Republicans could repeal it and then indroduce real health care reform without abortion and all the payoffs and bribes. Then let's see the criminals on the left vote against it!
They had their chance under Bush but their reform was to do nothing.
Ahh yeah, the government taxing individuals and giving money/benefits to you is welfare..
Definition of welfare: aid to people in need: financial aid and other benefits for people who are unemployed, below a specific income level, or otherwise requiring assistance, especially when provided by a government agency or program
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I used to pay nothing out of my paycheck for healthcare and a $5 copay and no follow up bills. That was in the '90s. It was fine back then. Do you even understand the point of insurance? To SPREAD THE RISK? There's no reasoning with the insane!
Do you understand that insurance is supposed to be used to cover bills you cant afford to pay. Your example is a PRIME example as to where insurance companies got screwed by the government. Mandating care for little things like $75 doctors visits, and $100 eye exams..
Insurance is for things you cant afford to cover YOURSELF... catastrophic events that will financially ruin your life..
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We know what conservatives believe... The believe that they've got theirs, so screw everyone else! I think that sums it up. A sad, pathetic, and selfish group of people.
Proof positive you have no clue what conservatives believe.. As opposed to the alternative, "you got yours, I dont have mine, so GIVE ME IT NOW!!!".. Lets talk about sad, pathetic, selfish, group of people!!!
LOL! I guest the last 12 years with Bush running our country was the right way to do it! Sorry!!!
Conservatives are dead wrong for wanting to shoot that down. (pre-existing conditions) Why would the Repubs want remove it? I have a theory! It's because they want to continue getting kick backs from insurance companies etc...
Are you seriously unable to understand that post? And ignorant of what's been going on for months? The Republicans supported the measure preventing denials based on pre-existing conditions. The Dems were unwilling to vote on that issue seperate to pass it earlier.
Exactly! We no longer consider repealing social security now anymore than our grandchildren will consider repealing this healthcare reform 70 years from now!
This isn't the same as social security (which is on the road to bankruptcy BTW), and O has nowhere near the support FDR had.
Do you think insurance companies raise their premiums out of malevolence or out of necessity? How do they model their business? Aren't they just following their model? Isn't it about risk? Seems the Dems picked the opportune time to attack the industry. By characterizing the insurance companies as the evil bad guys, in the middle of the worse recession/depression since the 30s, and being in the majority, they could begin to realize their socialist agenda. They could lay the foundation for their socialist utopia.
By the way, the financial crisis was also caused by their socialist attempts at creating a black middle class of homeownership. 'Predatory lending' sure! The bankers jumped out of the bushes and forced people to borrow. What a hoot!
These people don't understand business. They don't want to understand. They think the money is out there and they are entitled to it. They imagine the insurance companies are able to cover everyone and premiums will go down. How does that work? What model are they using?
Any business has to take in more than it pays out. If they can't raise premiums, they will go out of business. Of course that's what the Dems want in the end - they want a government take over - a public system. Dems are dumb, easily led, and this administration is using them.
For a repeal to happen before 2013, the GOP would need to get a 2/3 veto-proof majority in both the house and senate in the November elections. That's just not going to happen. And people who think that courts are going to strike this bill down are dreaming.
Or maybe the Democratic voteing public will realize that their President just pushed thru a law thats going to raise their taxes, lower their level of health care & drive the deficit even higher & faster than it is now.
Only an idiot would think spending more when you are already broke is smart. Sadly Obama & 99% of democrats obviously qualify for idiocy.
We now will have the freedom to change jobs without worrying about having health insurance for a pre-existing condition.
You ALWAYS had that option. Federal law makes it illegal to deny you coverage at a new employer for pre-existing conditions which you had at your previous company.
People arguing about the virtues of the new law, while not knowing the current law.. laughable..
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I would love the Republican's to try to do that. They will fail!
If they(Repubs) were able to repeal this historic vote. Could you imagine the millions of Americans that have pre-existing health issues cut off? That would be a horrible scene to see!!
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I guaruntee if that happens. Obama will definetly win again in 2012.
The republicans have plans that cover people with preexisting conditions, Rep. Ryan for one. I would think that those plans would go into play, so the heart wrenching scenario you envision would not happen.
Are you seriously unable to understand that post? And ignorant of what's been going on for months? The Republicans supported the measure preventing denials based on pre-existing conditions. The Dems were unwilling to vote on that issue seperate to pass it earlier.
Ignorant far from it. Are you ignorant to accept the facts that the Republicans did not have any intentions of reforming Health care. Can you understand that?
The republicans have plans that cover people with preexisting conditions, Rep. Ryan for one. I would think that those plans would go into play, so the heart wrenching scenario you envision would not happen.
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