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A victory in November means this bill can be repealed. No law is forever. I think it's also highly probably the courts will strike this bill down or at the minimum gut it.
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I would love the Republican's to try to do that. They will fail!
If they(Repubs) were able to repeal this historic vote. Could you imagine the millions of Americans that have pre-existing health issues cut off? That would be a horrible scene to see!!
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I guaruntee if that happens. Obama will definetly win again in 2012.
Don't worry, Obama will never be elected President.
You are correct and hussein obama knows it. Not only will people see their taxes and everything they touch raise in cost before they see any benefit from the health care bill, many states are passing laws requiring anyone running for president will have to prove their citizenship to be on the ballot. We know hussein obama will not qualify.
Well, I don't make $200K a year, so I don't have to worry.
Oh you have lots to worry about as you will one day need care.. Or did you mean you dont need to worry because SOMEONE ELSE is paying for it? So you now are happy to be on welfare?
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Originally Posted by denverian
But even so, if the choice is pay $30 a month more in taxes and then have health insurance without a $2000 deductible, I'll take the tax!
Yeah, who cares about the outcome of ONLY paying $30 a month. You want to pay $30 a month, go for it, enjoy the care $30 a month is worth.
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Originally Posted by denverian
The problem with conservatives (well, one of their problems) is that they see no value in any tax they pay. I see value in having public schools, SS, Medicare, public libraries, smooth roads, etc. I understand that I get something positive in return for paying taxes. Conservatives seem want it all for free.
The problem with liberals is they believe they HAVE A CLUE as to what conversatives believe. Most of what you listed is a STATE responsibility.. Its so dam sad that liberals havent learned the value in seperation of the federal and state government..
Haha, even when your side wins, you have to whine for more.. waaaa!!!!
You have no solid foundationg to build off of.. Your side has a bill which will take 1 1/2 year to kick in due to legal challenges, and by some chance this does get ruled legal, you still dont have a win.. America has a loss, loss of jobs, increased taxes, nothing to curb expenses, financial instability in the medical industry due to further cuts. Yeah, you won alright...
You are right about one thing, government will then come back and "fix" what they fk up to begin with..
What's wrong with your World this morning? Sour grapes?
I guess it's probably pretty hard for people with your political views to realize that the majority of America doesn't agree with you. Do you know why the GOP keeps losing, time after time? Because they have nothing to offer anymore. Now, try not to let it ruin your week that the GOP just had its butt handed to it on the national stage. You guys might even pick up a few House seats because of this.
Of course, the GOP will be out of power for decades, but nevermind that. Just focus on the good... You will benefit from this bill just much as the rest of us, despite your opposition.
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I would love the Republican's to try to do that. They will fail!
If they(Repubs) were able to repeal this historic vote. Could you imagine the millions of Americans that have pre-existing health issues cut off? That would be a horrible scene to see!!
^
I guaruntee if that happens. Obama will definetly win again in 2012.
WRONG as most liberals are.. Conservatives supported the removal of pre-existing conditions.. Its liberals who refused to look at seperate parts of the bill and pass them so that it wouldnt get challenged all at once..
incomeptence, I gotta have it all now, Democrats...
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I would love the Republican's to try to do that. They will fail!
If they(Repubs) were able to repeal this historic vote. Could you imagine the millions of Americans that have pre-existing health issues cut off? That would be a horrible scene to see!!
^
I guaruntee if that happens. Obama will definetly win again in 2012.
There was widespread support for the little bit about pre-existing conditions. The majority of Americans oppose this bill overall though. Didn't you people get a hint when dems lost the election in large part in response to O and his healthcare?
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I would love the Republican's to try to do that. They will fail!
If they(Repubs) were able to repeal this historic vote. Could you imagine the millions of Americans that have pre-existing health issues cut off? That would be a horrible scene to see!!
^
I guaruntee if that happens. Obama will definetly win again in 2012.
Republicans could repeal it and then indroduce real health care reform without abortion and all the payoffs and bribes. Then let's see the criminals on the left vote against it!
A victory in November means this bill can be repealed. No law is forever. I think it's also highly probably the courts will strike this bill down or at the minimum gut it.
The Republican candidate ran for the White House in 1936 by promising to repeal the "folly" of Social Security, and that didn't work out so well for him or the party.
"The Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts plan. It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican counter-proposals to Clintoncare in 1993-1994."
So much for socialism
Joe Biden 2010: " You know we're going to control the insurance companies."
Control K-12 education
Control the nation's college student loan system
Control banks
Control insurance companies
Control which products and services we shall buy
Control health care, and with that control life and death
Control energy generation and consumer use of it
Control the very air we breath
What freedoms are there left for we the people to be in control of, that the government does not already decide the form it takes and the options are available to us? Who works to serve whom, after 0bama gets done with his progressive agenda?
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