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Old 04-14-2010, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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18 years in the service, second tour of duty in Afghanistan.....I don't think YOU can.

I think anyone can. This act of treason and mutiny trumps any and all of that.

Sorry.

 
Old 04-14-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Of course obama signed the order for the troop surge - he's the only one that can, btw.
As with most thing, you are clearly clueless.

Do you honestly think that individual orders, hell, unit deployment orders are signed by the President of the United States? There's a hoot.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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As with most thing, you are clearly clueless.

Do you honestly think that individual orders, hell, unit deployment orders are signed by the President of the United States? There's a hoot.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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Default Filed Under, Be Careful What You Wish For.

Lt. Col Lakin, has been read his Miranda Rights, had his laptop confiscated and his Pentagon access pass revoked as preliminaries for being charged under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice for as yet unspecified charges.

Army goes after birther officer who refused deployment | Stripes Blogs (http://blogs.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-central/army-goes-after-birther-officer-who-refused-deployment - broken link)
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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"For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there.

I will disobey my orders to deploy because I – and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people – deserve the truth about President Obama’s constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief."

Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin (selected for promotion to Colonel)


Not an April Fools’ joke: Army officer defies orders unless Obama shows birth certificate « Iowa Independent (http://iowaindependent.com/31168/not-an-april-fools%E2%80%99- - broken link)
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If an officer does it, it has to be the best course of action. Period. Officers never make wrong choices based on personal feelings.

AFP: 12 dead, 31 hurt in Texas military base rampage
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:31 PM
 
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Just a thought.

Apparently Lt. Col Lakin has been reporting for duty, just refusing to report to Ft. Campbell for deployment. The reason that I raise this issue is that it puts the Lt.Col's argument in a strange light, in that he was willing to submit to the Commander in Chiefs authority simply by reporting for duty everyday, and obeying the orders of his superiors for more than a year under Obama's command as CINC. This reduces his argument not to disobeying an "unlawful order" just the unlawful order he doesn't like.

One other little point, if he is charged with conduct unbecoming an officer, all that will be needed is a fork.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As with most thing, you are clearly clueless.

Do you honestly think that individual orders, hell, unit deployment orders are signed by the President of the United States? There's a hoot.
When I was in the Army they kept telling me that Eisenhower was my Commander in Chief and he was nothing but the President of the US. Now is Obama the Pres or not? If he is he is the top dog in the military and no matter who signed the orders he did it for the CIC.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:37 PM
 
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another dumb birther
it is the duty of an officer to obey any lawful order. It is also the duty to disobey an unlawful order. Telling the difference is the problem. If the commander in chief is not intact a lawful person to hold the position then he is acting correctly. His job is to carry out lawful orders. If the president isn't legally able to be president then he the officer can't do his job. Asking for clarification is his right and duty. He is not another dumb birther. He is an officer with a problem asking for clarification.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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Probably a Courts Martial is just what he wants. A trial; so the defense can ask for "discovery",
and gain access to sealed documents.

If the Lt. Col. contends it wasn't a "lawful order", and if the President is proved not a natural born
citizen, he would be right.

Doubtless, MANY citizens find it reasonable to demand access to documents which could expose, or
vindicate this tiresome Leader; of "the most transparent Administration---ever".

If the Army does an 'end around the rules', it makes a case ripe for appeal.

Go for it, Lt. Col.
 
Old 04-14-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Originally Posted by alphaluce View Post
Probably a Courts Martial is just what he wants. A trial; so the defense can ask for "discovery",
and gain access to sealed documents.

If the Lt. Col. contends it wasn't a "lawful order", and if the President is proved not a natural born
citizen, he would be right.

Doubtless, MANY citizens find it reasonable to demand access to documents which could expose, or
vindicate this tiresome Leader; of "the most transparent Administration---ever".

If the Army does an 'end around the rules', it makes a case ripe for appeal.

Go for it, Lt. Col.
Those Orders were not issued by the President, nor were they signed by him. If he wants to see the Birth Certificate of the General who issued the Orders that would be in his 201 file

This cowards medical education was paid for by the Army and to now he is refusing to care for wounded American Soldiers
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