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it is the duty of an officer to obey any lawful order. It is also the duty to disobey an unlawful order. Telling the difference is the problem. If the commander in chief is not intact a lawful person to hold the position then he is acting correctly. His job is to carry out lawful orders. If the president isn't legally able to be president then he the officer can't do his job. Asking for clarification is his right and duty. He is not another dumb birther. He is an officer with a problem asking for clarification.
We used to call people like you "sea lawyers." You'd explaining all the intricacies of the legal system to the captain at mast just before he said -- "Guilty, reduced in rate, confined to the ship for two months, and forfeit 25% of pay for two months."
Probably a Courts Martial is just what he wants. A trial; so the defense can ask for "discovery",
and gain access to sealed documents.
If the Lt. Col. contends it wasn't a "lawful order", and if the President is proved not a natural born
citizen, he would be right.
Doubtless, MANY citizens find it reasonable to demand access to documents which could expose, or
vindicate this tiresome Leader; of "the most transparent Administration---ever".
If the Army does an 'end around the rules', it makes a case ripe for appeal.
Go for it, Lt. Col.
He won't get discovery of anything. He doesn't have the right to challenge the qualifications of the President. The only salient point will be that he disobey a movement order of his commanding officer. That's all the court will hear.
it is the duty of an officer to obey any lawful order. It is also the duty to disobey an unlawful order. Telling the difference is the problem.
It really isn't that difficult.
First of all an unlawful order is one that violates the UCMJ, or the Geneva Conventions.
Second, Lakin hasn't had a lick of problem obeying orders under Obama for more than a year, so it comes down to his picking and choosing which lawful orders he wants to obey.
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If the commander in chief is not intact a lawful person to hold the position then he is acting correctly.
For the gazillionth time, this dude doesn't receive orders from Obama. Now call me when a one of the members of the Joint Chiefs or one of the command areas decides that he isn't the lawful president.
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He is not another dumb birther.
You're right he isn't smart enough to be a birther. He is just a dimwitted pawn in a political game that he can not win.
it is the duty of an officer to obey any lawful order. It is also the duty to disobey an unlawful order. Telling the difference is the problem. If the commander in chief is not intact a lawful person to hold the position then he is acting correctly. His job is to carry out lawful orders. If the president isn't legally able to be president then he the officer can't do his job. Asking for clarification is his right and duty. He is not another dumb birther. He is an officer with a problem asking for clarification.
Newsflash. In the military you don"t get to interpret orders. You obey them.
Hey should we attack that village? What about civilians? Geez is it lawful? Let's take a vote.
it is the duty of an officer to obey any lawful order. It is also the duty to disobey an unlawful order. Telling the difference is the problem. If the commander in chief is not intact a lawful person to hold the position then he is acting correctly. His job is to carry out lawful orders. If the president isn't legally able to be president then he the officer can't do his job. Asking for clarification is his right and duty. He is not another dumb birther. He is an officer with a problem asking for clarification.
Some other Officer, not President Obama ordered him to Afghanistan to care for wounded American troops. He is disobeying the order of that Officer.
Some other Officer, not President Obama ordered him to Afghanistan to care for wounded American troops. He is disobeying the order of that Officer.
My son in law is doing his third tour in Afghanistan. I don't want this coward anywhere near him. I want this coward in the brig where he has a lot of time to think about the brave doctor who had to go in his place.
Newsflash. In the military you don"t get to interpret orders. You obey them.
Hey should we attack that village? What about civilians? Geez is it lawful? Let's take a vote.
You ever spend any time in the military?? The orders you just mocked are exactly the kind a soldier is supposed to question. Military personel are not dumb automatons you just wide up and they will march off in whatever direction you point them in.
As to this officer, he is out of line and will be dealt with accordingly under UCMJ. However, please don't insult our servicemen & women with such drivel.
Lakin has earned the distinction of taking care of many Admirals and Generals since working at the Pentagon, where he serves as Chief of Primary Care and Flight Surgeon for the DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic and is the lead Flight Surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff General Casey's pilots and air crew. LTC Lakin's numerous awards and decorations include the Army Flight Surgeon Badge, Combat Medical Badge, the Bronze Star Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters, the Army Achievement Medal with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Service Star, the Armed Forces Expedition Medal, the Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal, the Army Service Ribbon, the Overseas Service Ribbon sixth award and the NATO service medal. He has served previously in Honduras, Bosnia, Korea, and Afghanistan
This man is NOT a coward. Look at his record. Plus doing what he's doing knowing that it's probably going to get him kicked out with a bad conduct or even a dishonaorable discharge after serving honorably an entire career , he has BALLS to do what he's doing. Obama should stop f*cking around and just produce his birth certificate and not this certificate of live birth. I'm not a 'birther' , I am not convinced he's ineligible to serve , I frankly don't know. But it is disturbing that rank and file members of the service provide more documentation to join the military than the commander in chief has. This guy is not some nut , he's putting his career on the line over this. He HAS served in Afghanistan already , he's not too chicken to go over there and looking for an excuse. Go back to page 1 of this thread and click the links to the full story. Read it before making comments.
You ever spend any time in the military?? The orders you just mocked are exactly the kind a soldier is supposed to question. Military personel are not dumb automatons you just wide up and they will march off in whatever direction you point them in.
As to this officer, he is out of line and will be dealt with accordingly under UCMJ. However, please don't insult our servicemen & women with such drivel.
Actually I spent 7 years, I doubt you have though.
No kidding they are not "dumb automatons", they are trained professionals. In situations under duress there is no time to hash things out with a cup of coffee around a conference table. You need to act and react to orders without question or people die.
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Military personel are not dumb automatons you just wide up and they will march off in whatever direction you point them in. 
