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Old 06-14-2007, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What is Canada doing right with healthcare that we are doing wrong? How can they have free Healthcare and we in the US can not? If free healthcare was that easy to implement wouldn't we have done it already? What's the hold up?
Hmm? I'll pass

As waitlists grow ever longer, surgical tourism has become an option for many Canadians who are in pain and frustrated with the country's chronically overburdened medical system. Patients who travel to developing world countries for their surgical procedures are receiving top-notch medical care in plush hospitals, and enjoying a nice holiday in the process.

Procedures that are extremely expensive in North America can be had at bargain basement prices in developing countries. Medical tourism to India and Thailand has grown rapidly in recent years, with countries such as Singapore, Costa Rica, South Africa and Malaysia catching up fast. France, Belgium and Hungary are also popular destinations.

Yasmeen Sayeed, president and CEO of Surgical Tourism Canada (STC), a Vancouver-based firm that helps Canadians travel overseas for medical care, says countries such as India that have private health care have access to unlimited resources; they can afford the best surgeons—many of whom are trained in Europe and North America—and provide cutting edge technology in state of the art hospitals. In comparison, Canada's publicly funded system often uses "archaic" procedures and is limited in terms of equipment and standards.
"If you compare with Europe and Asia, Canada is far behind in technology. People are getting more and more educated through the Internet and they want the best and latest techniques, but those techniques are not available in Canada," says Sayeed. -Snip

The Epoch Times | Canadians Seeking Medical Treatment in the Developing World
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Yep there is 'free healthcare'

go to Sweden, Norway, Finland, Ireland (the Celtic Lion with a booming economy) France, Canada, Japan, Russia, Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany, England, Denmark, Israel, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, The Netherlands,
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skytrekker, do you imagine that healthcare exists in a vacuum? Do you imagine that medical personnel, hospitals, equipment, medications and all the other components of a healthcare systerm are provided without cost to anyone? All the "cradle to grave" healthcare systems throughout the world exist because the citizens of those countries are taxed at unbelievably high rates. Not only that, but the wait time for treatment is markedly longer and in most cases the medication options are far fewer. In Canada it is illegal to purchase (or by extension, sell) private health insurance. So if you aren't happy with the level of care you receive under their socialized system - too bad.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:51 PM
 
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Canadian taxes are nuts a gallon milk is atleast 5$ Gas was about 6 It may be a little more than that I havent been in a couple of years

LOL. Look again. While milk hasn't been sold here by the gallon for quite some time, 4 liters, (a tad more than an American gallon), was going for $3.79Cdn at the corner store yesterday. Milk prices, by the way, have precious little to do with taxes and considerably more to do with guaranteed prices for milk paid to dairy farmers by provincial marketing boards for supply management purposes.

Gasoline today was going for $.99 Cdn per liter. At 3.78 liters per US gallon that would put the price at $3.74 Cdn per gallon. Using today's exchange rate of .936, (the US greenback had been taking a hammering lately), that would put a US gallon of gasoline at $3.50 US at my local station. A tad pricey, perhaps, but not quite $6 yet.

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In Canada it is illegal to purchase (or by extension, sell) private health insurance.
Not quite. There are all sorts of private health insurance plans available with coverages for upgraded hospital accomodation, dental care, prescription drugs, physiotherapy, etc. What is illegal is for private companies to establish for-profit facilities offering non-elective surgical and medical care. In other words, no private hospitals creating a 2-tier health system.

There are, however, numerous private, for-profit, facilities offering cosmetic surgery, abortions, and various diagnostic services.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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How does Canada do it?
Tax the health out of you.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:05 PM
 
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How does the Canadian and British health care systems compare? I admit, I know almost nothing about the Candian system. I was stationed in England for two years though. And every Brit I talked to about it loved their health care system.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Sounds like the greed heads running our system are infecting the Canadian system and preventing the government for providing adequate funding. Lack of adequate funding is the major problem for most government-funded healthcare. We can under fund ours by excluding most of the potential patients while Canada has to treat everybody.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:18 PM
 
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What is Canada doing right with healthcare that we are doing wrong? How can they have free Healthcare and we in the US can not? If free healthcare was that easy to implement wouldn't we have done it already? What's the hold up?
What makes you think it's free ?
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:26 PM
 
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If you want to analyze government-run healthcare, you only need to look as far as your local VA hospital. My father needed a skin cancer taken off his ear and was told by the VA it would be 96 days before it could be scheduled.

He went to a private physician.

Canadian Health Care In Crisis - CBS News

(AP) A letter from the Moncton Hospital to a New Brunswick heart patient in need of an electrocardiogram said the appointment would be in three months. It added: "If the person named on this computer-generated letter is deceased, please accept our sincere apologies."

The patient wasn't dead, according to the doctor who showed the letter to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
News flash....without insurance or cash it could take longer than 96 days in the private healtcare system, if ever......
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:39 PM
 
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News flash....without insurance or cash it could take longer than 96 days in the private healtcare system, if ever......
Well, of course. Doctors don't work for free. They have to eat too.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Wellsburg, WV
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TANSTAAFL

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TANSTAAFL means that a person or a society cannot get something for nothing. Even if something appears to be free, there is always a cost to the person or to society as a whole even though that cost may be hidden or distributed.
Liz
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