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After finding this message board and coming across the whole PUA subculture on the Internet I knew this would happen sooner or later. There is this very worrying culture of nasty misogyny on the Internet fed by a combination of low self-esteem, Aspergers, sense of entitlement and sociopathy. The worst thing is that, since these people have no life outside the Internet, most of their interaction is online with other people like them, so there is a feedback of hatred and misinformation. If you go to puahate.com (the site where he used to post; it's down now so you have to access it through cache) you will be appalled. There are many more like him lurking in the shadows.
Last edited by Perfect Stranger; 05-31-2014 at 08:03 AM..
You identified the problem. Being too selective. If she's not good looking she's not worth having. She has to be good looking AND nice. Just nice won't do. How many women are removed from the pool if you take out the ones who are not considered good looking? If they are the only women men will consider, then you will have a disproportionate percentage of men going after one group of women while excluding another and the odds may not be in your favor.
I had to laugh at my dd yesterday. She's always lamenting that there are no good looking guys at her high school. She was proving her point by going through the seniors. She picked out a couple she thought were good looking and then added another and another and another.... saying things like "he's funny and that makes him good looking" and "he's nice so that makes him good looking". The pool you have to choose from gets very small if you make looks the number one criteria and you will have lots of competition for the available women in that pool.
The California killer wanted "Blond girls". He had picked one subset and was upset that he couldn't get them. Given his dark complexion, dark hair and dark eyes, I wonder if he could have attracted someone with similar characteristics. We have an unconscious tendency to be attracted to people like us or so different from us they are exotic. He seems to have eliminated girls who look like him from the selection pool. When you're too picky, it should come as no surprise that you cannot get what you want.
Like many of his kind he was a racist (a self-hating racist in his case, since he was half-Asian). He specifically wanted a white woman in order to validate himself and remove his Asianness. He got apoplectic every time he saw a black or Indian guy with a beautiful white girl, because that went against his unflexible Aspergers-fed worldview. He also raged when he saw a guy who drove an average car with a beautiful girl. He literally believed that driving a BMW and wearing $500 sweaters entitled him to "have" beautiful white girls. He hated women for choosing "brutes" and "animals" instead of someone "sophisticated" like him.
After finding this messageboard and coming across the whole PUA subculture on the Internet I knew this would happen sooner or later. There is this very worrying culture of nasty mysoginy on the Internet fed by a combination of low self-esteem, Aspergers, sense of entitlement and sociopathy. The worst thing isthat, since these people have no life outside the Internet. most of their interaction is online with other people like them, so there is a feedback of hatred and misingformation. If you go to puahate.com (the site where he used to post; is down so you have to do it through cache) yo will be appalled. There are many more like him lurking in the shadows.
That is scary. Why do so many think they are entitled? Are we breeding them or what?
After finding this message board and coming across the whole PUA subculture on the Internet I knew this would happen sooner or later. There is this very worrying culture of nasty misogyny on the Internet fed by a combination of low self-esteem, Aspergers, sense of entitlement and sociopathy. The worst thing is that, since these people have no life outside the Internet, most of their interaction is online with other people like them, so there is a feedback of hatred and misinformation. If you go to puahate.com (the site where he used to post; is down so you have to do it through cache) you will be appalled. There are many more like him lurking in the shadows.
Very few do but it does happen. There are women out there who are damaged like their male counterparts as I've seen many unambitious dead beats have children many of them illegitimate.
That's why I simply don't by into this whole natural selection/pop evolutionary theory that people constantly spout here in these threads. Not when there's so many kids in this country born into abusive households and a-hole parents.
I agree. Most people meet someone they are attracted to, and think they are in a serious relationship after a few months when they'e most likely still in the infatuation stage. A lot of people get married or have a kid at this stage.
In my opinion, you simply cannot get to know someone very well in a couple of months, not in a meaningful way. Relationships,friendship, trust, intimacy and connection take time to develop---whether it's work buddies or your life mate.
Wow. Are you serious? Men being "left to guess what the ingredients are"? If a person has that much trouble with figuring out what a woman wants, then guess what? He's not going to be dating any of them. The same goes for a woman. NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. You are not born with a "get laid" or "get married" or "get a girlfriend" card. You are born with a brain. Use it and being a lame whiner that blames his troubles on every one else.
The best way to know what someone wants is to ASK them. Most people will tell you.
The first paragraph is not true. Plenty of people are in relationships who aren't "special" in any way.
I agree with the rest of what you said.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Most people are a conglomeration of wonderfulness and awfulness, strengths and weaknesses, good and bad---so since we are that way ourselves, that's all we should expect from others.
We are all special and unique in that there is no one else exactly like us, we all have something to offer, and there is no one alive who also hasn't been a total jerk at times. It's just humanity, in all its glorious imperfection.
Seems kind of ridiculous and foolish, definitely not true.
I don't know about the accuracy of the percentages given, but otherwise, the statement is basically correct. The flip side is men act the same way for the most part.
Of course, that's a loaded question. They ignore far more than merely the "unpleasant" males. And many "unpleasant" males became so due to a lifetime of being ignored. But yes, social mores should be arranged to incentivize women to spread their attentions more equally. Of course you'll point and sputter at this, but again, this was taken utterly for granted not long ago.
I don't know what you're talking about. What about all the women who get ignored? Should men be "incentivized" to spread their attentions more equally? The sad truth is that life isn't fair. Make the best of the hand you've been dealt.
Cecee, I think you're right. His parents probably thought it was time to kick the baby bird out of the nest. He went to two other community colleges before he moved to Santa Barbara; they must have been tearing their hair out trying to help him jump start his life. And from all outward indications, he was suicidal not homicidal. We can all Monday morning quarterback, but I wonder if his rage and angst would have been so apparent if we had seen the videos before his rampage?
His parents did see the videos before the rampage. He e-mailed his manifesto to them before he killed anyone. They were both in their cars headed to Santa Barbara to help him when they heard on the news that there was a shooter, and knew right away it was their son.
Someone in the New York Times comments section said the smartest thing I've read on this so far. Instead of jumping in their cars, the parents should also have used social media to warn the Santa Barbara community of what their son was intending to do. Better to look like alarmist fools, than not to warn people. Or they should have called the police, I'm not sure if they did that after he e-mailed them.
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